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getrdunn 03-26-2009 08:37 PM

TRS - engine R & R help....
 
I pulled my engines out this past winter without pulling my drives. This went quick and easy. The question I have though is what about putting the engines back in. The drive shafts kind of do the weeble wable thing and I am not sure how you keep the alignment when lowering and moving the engines/trans back to place.

The last time I did this (years ago) I had pulled the drives before pulling the engines. I could still pull them and reinstall them however I'm looking for an easier way out . I can't see any way to hold the shafts in place during or when getting close to engine placement.

Thanks for any help.

John

jeff32 03-26-2009 08:41 PM

my guess is you have to take them off or, maybe turn the prop so the spline slips in your tranny... but I never did what you've done.

Biggus 03-26-2009 08:42 PM

On my TG, I never remove the drives when swapping motors.
When you're lowering the motor in, just feed the input shaft into the trans and have someone tun the prop slowly. Usually less than a turn of the prop and the shaft engages into the spline. I've never had even the slightest issue.

Kurt

getrdunn 03-26-2009 08:49 PM

that might work. sounds like a job for the b-i-otch. maybe she can hadle that job better than putting fuel in the caddy today. did i forget to mention diesel fuel into a gasoline engine. Ya, that was a nice phone call late this afternoon right after i backed over my sons ATV with my Ram 3/4 ton.
i felt like throwing myself in the outdoor wood boiler and calling it a day.

John

getrdunn 03-26-2009 08:51 PM

thank you both for the help. as noted i'm sure you see why i'm not thinking clearly at the moment.

spazboz 03-26-2009 08:58 PM

I always pull the drives and check alignment. I know people who and have never had any issue's. For me personally I just like to know that its all running true.

getrdunn 03-26-2009 09:15 PM

Funny
 

Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 2830020)
that might work. sounds like a job for the b-i-otch. maybe she can hadle that job better than putting fuel in the caddy today. did i forget to mention diesel fuel into a gasoline engine. Ya, that was a nice phone call late this afternoon right after i backed over my sons ATV with my Ram 3/4 ton.
i felt like throwing myself in the outdoor wood boiler and calling it a day.

John

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Biggus 03-27-2009 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by spazboz (Post 2830030)
I always pull the drives and check alignment. I know people who and have never had any issue's. For me personally I just like to know that its all running true.

You'd be busy trying to install on a Bravo boat.

TRS has no gimbal bearing, just a trans tailstock bearing that's fixed.

The TRS has a rather long input shaft so it's not too bad getting it to line up. Here's a pic of a BW fitted with a TRS tailstock.

MILD THUNDER 03-27-2009 08:41 AM

What biggus says is how i do it. While lowering, just feed the input shaft into the tailstock, and once its in, have someone turn the propshaft while you put a little pressure pushing the motor/trans assembly towards the transom, it should slide right in.

Rookie 03-27-2009 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2830204)
TRS has no gimbal bearing, just a trans tailstock bearing that's fixed.

Not to Hi-jack this thread, but the bearing that you are talking about is it serviceable without pulling the tranny? I thought I heard people replacing the gimble bearing on a TRS boat, this must be the bearing they are replacing???

I thought I read where you have to cut something out to access this.

Biggus 03-27-2009 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 2830296)
Not to Hi-jack this thread, but the bearing that you are talking about is it serviceable without pulling the tranny? I thought I heard people replacing the gimble bearing on a TRS boat, this must be the bearing they are replacing???

I thought I read where you have to cut something out to access this.


If the TRS application is fitted with a Brog Warner (Velvet Drive) tranny, the tailstock bearing is replaceable through the bellows. (held in w/snap ring)
If fitted with the MercTrans, the motor/trans must be pulled to replace the bearing. Although I have replaced it by removing the gimbal housing but I'll never do that again, -huge can o worms...

Rookie 03-27-2009 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2830339)
If the TRS application is fitted with a Brog Warner (Velvet Drive) tranny, the tailstock bearing is replaceable through the bellows. (held in w/snap ring)
If fitted with the MercTrans, the motor/trans must be pulled to replace the bearing. Although I have replaced it by removing the gimbal housing but I'll never do that again, -huge can o worms...

That is great news, I have the Borg Warner. I heard the bearing starting to howl last year right before I put it up.

bobbowobbo 03-28-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 2830421)
That is great news, I have the Borg Warner. I heard the bearing starting to howl last year right before I put it up.

replace it!!! I spent two days trying to seperate(pull) the motor with a seized bearing, I finally had to make a tool to release the bearing from the tail housing to get it apart. bad memory

good luck

spazboz 03-29-2009 01:05 PM

TRS alignment tool
 

Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2830204)
You'd be busy trying to install on a Bravo boat.

TRS has no gimbal bearing, just a trans tailstock bearing that's fixed.

The TRS has a rather long input shaft so it's not too bad getting it to line up. Here's a pic of a BW fitted with a TRS tailstock.

The TRS alignment tool inserts into the tailstock of the Transmission and align's the transmission with the bell-housing of the gimble. It is similar to the Alpha/Bravo tool except it has a large round disc on the end that couples into the inner hole of the bell housing. Alignment has been achieved when the disc lies completely flat with the surface of the bell housing that bolts to the outdrive. I will take a picture of it Monday when i get to the shop.

Nick

getrdunn 03-30-2009 08:34 PM

pic
 
I will take a picture of it Monday when i get to the shop.

Nick[/QUOTE]




thanks for the pic when you send it.
John

Scott B 03-31-2009 04:47 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...096800x600.jpg

spazboz 03-31-2009 01:37 PM

Hey, thanks for the shot Scott. I keep forgetting to take the picture. That would be the creature. PS- I think your gaskets broke! :evilb:


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