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Rage 09-01-2009 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Thunderstruck (Post 2943778)
My dyno pulls were with the same springs, different lifters.

Also check to make sure that the pushrods are the correct length, a long shot but it is part of the process.

Don't know about the lift issue with 496 lifters, definitely something to look at there.Yes but then why no problems of insufficient oiling for all those hours? Good point

Thanks. I checked the rocker arm contact point on the valve stem tip using the current push rods and it was dead center when built.

Rage 09-01-2009 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by TWIN-SPINS (Post 2943796)
rage i had a lifter go bad ,,,it knocked the push rod off the rocker arm,,,the hydraulic lifter would not compress at all,,,was told it could of broke the stud,,,in my case it didnt

Good point. How does one confirm the function of a hydraulic lifter to determine if one is now defective?

Rage 09-01-2009 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Thunderstruck (Post 2943395)
My 502's with Crane hydraulic lifters floated the valves on the dyno at 5600 rpm, just a thought. Morel lifters didn't float up to 6000 (stopped the pulls at 6000).

That is interesting. Do you know if the valves floated with the Crane hydraulic lifters at 5600 rpm because they were pumping up?

Thunderstruck 09-01-2009 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Rage (Post 2944187)
That is interesting. Do you know if the valves floated with the Crane hydraulic lifters at 5600 rpm because they were pumping up?

Don't know why but you can definitely see the airflow, tq and hp numbers drop off when the valves float.

FIXX 09-01-2009 04:22 PM

mrfixxall
 

Originally Posted by Rage (Post 2944174)
That is very interesting. Exactly how does a hydraulic lifter malfunction so that it would pump up its adjustment length and thereby hold a valve open against the valve spring preload?

oil pressure!! if the retainer clip that holds all the internals in the lifter comes out then the lifter will keep expanding and could cause the valve to hit a piston at higher rpms..

Rage 09-01-2009 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 2944247)
oil pressure!! if the retainer clip that holds all the internals in the lifter comes out then the lifter will keep expanding and could cause the valve to hit a piston at higher rpms..

Good to Know. So if the lifter snap ring is still in place this should not be a problem at present....correct?

TWIN-SPINS 09-01-2009 06:34 PM

thats what broke on my lifter,the retaining spring,,,each lifter should be able to be pushed down so far,,,so yea if the clip is there and it is able to push down a little,,,i would say its good,,

FIXX 09-01-2009 07:01 PM

mrfixxall
 

Originally Posted by Rage (Post 2944294)
Good to Know. So if the lifter snap ring is still in place this should not be a problem at present....correct?

here's a little clip on how a hydrolic lifter works, if the preload is set too far into the lifter theirs no cushion on the valve trane(acts like a solid lifter) thats why i set them 1/4 to 1/2 turn..the more you tighten the rocker at zero lash the less protection..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lorANZ1Tptw

Rage 09-03-2009 04:20 AM

The exterior of my broken stud ( ie the way it was manufactured) looks significantly different from the ARP studs I just bought.

Back4More 09-03-2009 08:43 AM

Happened to me once...aluminum heads at high rpm, I installed stud girdles


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