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cbellamore 09-01-2009 03:57 PM

is there anything wrong with your heads ?
or your bottom end in the motor ?

if you can do the work yourself you can easily make 500hp with that motor, and probably come in under the $5,000 range

Ive had a lot of car motors ( I know boat motors are a little different) and usually the car motors are seeing more top end rpm so theyre making more peak power but 454 inches is not too hard to make 500hp with on pump gas
Ive done a few street motor setups
that have made over 650hp with stock rect. heads, stock bottom ends,

Ive done some that have made over 600hp with large oval heads also with some slight port work done to them, on pump gas and are very mild mannered

its all about setting up the right combination
I would have your heads ported and freshened,
depending on what valves you have possibly go up in size with them (depending on what you have)
possibly even milled depending on what your cc size is to get a little more compression out of the setup if you want
also gotta check what your height your pistons are installed at
the motor I just took apart had the pistons installed .050 in the bore which was killing my compression
so you might have to have the block decked again depending on where your pistons sit right now

go with a custom hyd roller cam from Bob Madera at Marine Kinetics
Good set of valve springs, retainers to match the cam specs
Crane or similar quality hyd roller lifters
correct pushrods
double roller timing chain
new main bearings and rod bearing if you need them
if yours are in good shape re use them
rpm air gap
or single plane intake, depending on what Bob suggests for cam selection
start with an 850 holley carb
new HV oil pump and pickup
possibly even add some ARP rod bolts to your stock rods if you have the extra money
proper ignition setup
and that should easliy see over 500 hp and 500 ft/lbs of tq

that stock magnum bottom end you have is a very good base to work off of and will handle 500hp without anything to worry about
its a good idea to do a leakdown test, compression test on your motor before you start taking everything apart, so it will give you a good idea of what your working with

that should not cost you anywhere near $5,000 if your doing all the checking measuring and assembly yourself

just keep in mind this is all based on if your bottom end and heads are in good shape

if you need anyone to do the head porting and intake manifold porting email me at [email protected]
I can put you in touch with someone local to me who does great porting work,
good luck
let us know what you decide to do

getrdunn 09-02-2009 08:39 PM

I can help you out in getting close your goals. If your interested just PM me. I can probably even dig up some of the old dyno sheets from 1992.

BadCompany 10-08-2009 07:37 PM

Looking at B&M 250 Blower with 2 750 carbs. What are the pros and cons with this setup??? Gus

DMOORE 10-08-2009 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by BadCompany (Post 2969421)
Looking at B&M 250 Blower with 2 750 carbs. What are the pros and cons with this setup??? Gus



For the HP numbers your looking to produce, there really are no cons to the setup. If it needs to be rebuilt, The Blower Shop Is able to do it. It should be a great package when your done.


Darrell.

BadCompany 10-08-2009 09:36 PM

Thanks for the input. Gus

AIR TIME 10-09-2009 04:52 PM

you still need a exhaust set up 1st, DEAN GELLNER ENGINES AT 216 398 8500 can get you all the parts needed and stainless marine exhaust a dry set up is 2800 to 3600 for gen 2 or gen3, I have a dry gen 2 for sale for 1200, if I don't trade it saturday. but DEAN can put it together or sell you the right parts. He is one of the best. and stay away from edelbrock heads the dart and afr are way better same money, and intakes to dart single plane is what merc used on the hp 500 with a 800 holley carb. art

Griff 10-09-2009 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by BadCompany (Post 2944206)
I appreciate the straight shooting from everybody. Now The question is is it worth 15k to satisfy my male ego.Still exploring options. Gus

It is really not worth investing 15k in a 15k boat. The boat will still be worth about 15k.

I do think you could get by with 10k though if you find some good deals on quality used stuff. You would probably be better off buying another complete engine and keeping your stock one in storage. Reinstall the stock engine when its time to sell.

AIR TIME 10-11-2009 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 2970368)
It is really not worth investing 15k in a 15k boat. The boat will still be worth about 15k.

I do think you could get by with 10k though if you find some good deals on quality used stuff. You would probably be better off buying another complete engine and keeping your stock one in storage. Reinstall the stock engine when its time to sell.

I didn't think of that, Great idea, theres a lot of motors in the classifeds for under 10,000 and 500 plus hp. and yah he can use the 365hp as a back up or when he sells the boat sell it with the 365hp. I am doing that this spring going to sell my boat minus the 509 no power or but a stock 454 in it.

Griff 10-12-2009 01:51 AM

Keep in mind that you may need external Hyd steering if your speed is approaching the 70mph range.

BadCompany 10-15-2009 09:16 PM

Missed the two blowers Mike had on a couple weeks ago,but landed the two from MTG Motorsports. Should be here in about a week. I appreciate all the input. Keep it coming,I need all the help I can get. Thanks Again Gus


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