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ctuck0659 09-05-2009 07:56 AM

Octane Question
 
In a non-blower motor, at what compression ratio is 87 octane no longer safe?

jeffswav 09-05-2009 10:07 AM

It also depends on what timing you run. I have 8.9 comp with 36 deg total timing and I run 89 octain fuel.

dslbrnr 09-05-2009 12:13 PM

when you hear pinging you need more octane, or less timming. When air temp is hot you will need more octane, except when you have an intercooler.

ctuck0659 09-05-2009 02:46 PM

I've got EFI motors so the timing would retard if the engs knocked anyway, but there's no way I'd ever hear pinging over the thru hull exh. and wind noise. I'm asking cause my motors are around 9:1 too after I cut the heads down and am wondering if I'm losing any power (from the ECM retarding the spark) running 87 octane.

Raylar 09-06-2009 05:08 PM

Stop Guessing! Investigate, Examine and Educate!
 
Put a scan tool or laptop on the engine while you are running and read the timing at various rpms underway.
If timing is being pulled out at midrange and high rpms then most likely you are expierencing knock and the ecm if so equipped with knock sensor system will pull out timing under loads and you will loose power.
If the engine is not expierencing any knock from the 87 octane fuel and not pulling out timing, drive it like you stole it! and be safe , have fun!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

jeffswav 09-06-2009 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by ctuck0659 (Post 2946875)
In a non-blower motor, at what compression ratio is 87 octane no longer safe?

Spend the extra couple dollars and use 89. Only put the amount of fuel in the tank you will use in a couple of weeks. Over a month and you are pushing it.

ctuck0659 09-06-2009 07:22 PM

Raylar: I've got a rinda scanner- great suggestion- thanks-

BIG SLICK 09-06-2009 07:50 PM

i just burnt a set of pistons running 89 octane and 34 degrees of timing in my 515(9.8 to 1).got 60 gallons at the marina put in 2 bottles of octane boost.first time i took it above 4000 rpms since i built the engine.had it wide open about 5-10 secs.learned the hard way.will be using 93 from now on!

jeffswav 09-07-2009 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by BIG SLICK (Post 2947433)
i just burnt a set of pistons running 89 octane and 34 degrees of timing in my 515(9.8 to 1).got 60 gallons at the marina put in 2 bottles of octane boost.first time i took it above 4000 rpms since i built the engine.had it wide open about 5-10 secs.learned the hard way.will be using 93 from now on!

I have heard octain boost does not do much. I would think with 9.8 comp 91or better would be a must.

t500hps 09-07-2009 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by BIG SLICK (Post 2947433)
i just burnt a set of pistons running 89 octane and 34 degrees of timing in my 515(9.8 to 1).got 60 gallons at the marina put in 2 bottles of octane boost.first time i took it above 4000 rpms since i built the engine.had it wide open about 5-10 secs.learned the hard way.will be using 93 from now on!

I'm at 9.75/1 and 34 degrees, run 93....if I have to put any 89 in it, I keep it below 4,000.

formula 382 sr-1 09-07-2009 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by t500hps (Post 2947659)
I'm at 9.75/1 and 34 degrees, run 93....if I have to put any 89 in it, I keep it below 4,000.

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