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rslick 09-08-2009 02:01 PM

Water Pressure Too High!!!
 
This is becoming a big pain in my (^&%&*^. The Keith Eickert exhaust is the only thing that was changed from the stock HP500 system. Rebuilt engine and added the exhaust last year. Anyway the pressure is running well over the 30 psi mark. I have tried a brass 5/8 id deverter valve inline after the sea pump with two 3/4'' id hoses off the risers. This set up has helped. Now I can get to 4000 to 4500 rpms before hitting the 30 psi mark. Before I needed to stay below 4000. I just installed the Mercury Marine "rip-off" relief valve with its 1'' id hose and still using the 3/4'' hoses off the risers. 34 or more psi at wot. What the hell is going on? Are the manifolds notorious for pressure problems? Another boater has the same manifolds on a 502 EFI Lingenfelter motor. He is seeing the same psi levels. I have been chasing this problem since last summer.
The drive is a dual water pickup style. Does anyone have any helpful ideas?

CB-BLR 09-08-2009 02:24 PM

Are there water restrictors in the water line going from the header to the exhaust down tube/collector?

Merc comes with restrictors at that location.
If there are, open them up.

It sounds like the restriction is in your exhaust.. since that is the only thing you have changed.

Just an idea.

Chris

DORaymond 09-08-2009 04:13 PM

I had the same problem with the EMI's but the Merc "rip-off" valve did the trick - never more than 25psi. Where are you dumping the relief valve?

B BOATER 09-08-2009 04:30 PM

P.S. you can buy pop off valves at a pool supply,plumbing supply, hardware store for next to nothing. Ran them for years. Still isnt solving your issue but thought I would let you know.

rslick 09-08-2009 11:27 PM

Thanks for the comments. The valve is dumping through a through hull fitting that Fountain installed to relieve pressure from the bottom of the boat. I have temporarily teed in to this line. No permanent holes until I find the right fix to the problem. I had custom tips made and I am starting to believe these are the problem. Although the problem existed when I had the short factory tips on. You would think that dumping 3/4'' id hoses before the tips would take care of any pressure problems. I am ready to go back to my Gils or try something else. Just hate to spend the money on a trial and error basis.

rslick 09-08-2009 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by B BOATER (Post 2948533)
P.S. you can buy pop off valves at a pool supply,plumbing supply, hardware store for next to nothing. Ran them for years. Still isnt solving your issue but thought I would let you know.

Thanks for the tip. I waited till the last minute and tried other valves before breaking down and paying the money for the Mercury valve which leaks water as well. It will be going back.

rslick 09-08-2009 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 2948414)
Are there water restrictors in the water line going from the header to the exhaust down tube/collector?

Merc comes with restrictors at that location.
If there are, open them up.

It sounds like the restriction is in your exhaust.. since that is the only thing you have changed.

Just an idea.

Chris

I forgot to mention that I did away with the 4 hoses to the exhaust, thermostat housing for the 2 hose style. Pressure problem was not affected by the change.

Thanks

FIXX 09-08-2009 11:46 PM

mrfixx
 

Originally Posted by rslick (Post 2948893)
I forgot to mention that I did away with the 4 hoses to the exhaust, thermostat housing for the 2 hose style. Pressure problem was not affected by the change.

Thanks

Didnt you change the heads to?

Griff 09-09-2009 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by rslick (Post 2948893)
I forgot to mention that I did away with the 4 hoses to the exhaust, thermostat housing for the 2 hose style. Pressure problem was not affected by the change.

Thanks

Where were the 4 hoses going before you switched to the 2 hose housing???? Were they T'd together and going only to the manifold or were they run just like Gils with one to each manifold and one to each riser???

rslick 09-09-2009 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 2948900)
Didnt you change the heads to?

Yes heads too, AFR. I figured they would have nothing to do with the water flow.

rslick 09-09-2009 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 2948913)
Where were the 4 hoses going before you switched to the 2 hose housing???? Were they T'd together and going only to the manifold or were they run just like Gils with one to each manifold and one to each riser???

On the 4 hose t-stat I t'd the two on each side into one and it ran it to the bottom of the manifold. Eickert manifolds only use one line in.

Griff 09-09-2009 08:36 PM

I believe that is the issue. There is simply too much water going in and it can't get out fast enough.

CB-BLR 09-09-2009 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 2949566)
I believe that is the issue. There is simply too much water going in and it can't get out fast enough.

I agree. I would dump a couple of lines off the back of the intake manifold. It will increase exit water flow, and help with more uniform cooling.

Chris

FIXX 09-09-2009 09:16 PM

mrfixxall
 

Originally Posted by rslick (Post 2949227)
Yes heads too, AFR. I figured they would have nothing to do with the water flow.

restrictive hole's in the head gaskets,,want your old heads back? ill trade you for the afr's :)

getrdunn 09-09-2009 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 2949617)
restrictive hole's in the head gaskets,,want your old heads back? ill trade you for the afr's :)


i know you some what joking however you can get gaskets that need to be modified to suit your application... there is so many gaskets and only so many interchange however some can with mods to the water jackets.

i would think the temps would be show this though.

GERRYM454 09-09-2009 11:24 PM

have you checked your thermostat to see if it is opening all the way and is there a bypass from where the water enters the block to down stream of the thermostat. If there is any obstruction the water pressure will be excessive.

rslick 09-13-2009 06:32 PM

Checked t-stat this weekend and installed another for the heck of it. No change in pressure. I was kind of thinking maybe head gaskets? I used Felpro marine. Has anyone had issues with these?

Where in the rear of the intake would you bleed water from? I did not see any areas that would accept a fitting?


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