stingray BBC???
 

I cannot find where I read this but....

some older stingrays came with BB as an option, most of the newer stuff has SB.

I heard there was a change in dimension at some particular year that doesnt easily allow for a SB to BB swap without moving the rear seat.

can anyone clarify this? and is there any advantage to one year model over the next?

Im talking about a 220 or 230 LX (bowrider) model

thanks!!

The 230sx you can get a big block in it. I work for a stingray dealer so if i can be of any help. Let me know.

I think the old Maxim 222 you could get a 330 hp in the late 80's

thanks
 

i thought that i read somewhere though. that in the newer boats the space isnt there.

i know there are some stingrays out there with BB power, but more with SB power, and i want to be able to convert one if needed.

a friend of mine had a 06 23 with a 496, very tight fit but worked good 70MPH

I have heard that too.

what im thinking is buying a SB with a B1 drive and dropping in my 502. but at some year or production they squeezed the engine compartment. not leaving enough for the big block.

maybe that was just the 220 and not the 230, dont know. just needing some information.

anyone know how the dimension stack up between the two motors as far as clearance in front of the pullies???

230lx
 

You are talking about the 230LX it came with a BBC as an option, the new style 220LX never did. The 230SX still does.
It was in 2003-2004 (cant remember exactly) Stingray realized they did not sell many BBC in that boat and moved the rear seat back 4". which would no longer accommodate a BBC. So unbolt the newer 230LX's rear seat and move it Fwd 4". It will run 70-72 with a 502 mag or 496 mag. the 502 is by far the better engine for mods. But the hull is only good to about high 80's low 90's with lots of set up time. I tried an ilmore V10 in a 230SX was too much. Picked up about 7mph swapping the ilmore to a 27 Daytona. So dont mod it much the boat is plenty fast @ mid 70's and will smoke most runabouts in its class. Run a Mirage plus 25, Ive tried them all the hull likes the bow lift and to run loose.
We are one of the first Stingray dealers since 1981... A great fast family sport boat..

I was hoping youd find this, i saw your posts on an older thread. thank you!
so 03-04 is where the change happend. im not clear though. the lx the seat was moved and the sx still can accomodate the bbc correct?

that 70-72 would be great, i have a 502 in the 500-550hp range, thatd be a nice ride in the lx boat.

what does it take to move that seat, nothing is really molded in is it?

what about these boats with a stern jack, did you ever test those?

Yes the 230SX and Lx share the same hull. the rear seat placement on the SX did not change so it can still take a BBC. on the Lx you may find cutting away some stringer for the bravo sea water pump will make things easier. Just seal it back up with some glass after the adjustment. You will find the drive is very deep and it will take a lot of trim for top speed. or get brave and re glass the trans and raise the X- 3-4"..
The seat is just screwed down an easy change.we pull them to work on the front on the engines when necessary.
550 crankshaft hp will get you 80 with the proper set up. We did a Raylor on a 496 mag and were somewhere near there. Cant remember for sure.
I never tried a sternjack on a Stingray, but if they would hold up The stingray with the deep drive would be a good candidate for one. ask around here to see if they are worth anything, I really don't hear anyone talking about them..
I dont see all the Stingray topics, so feel free to PM me if you need anything, or I don't respond..
I just took in one of my old Demo boats on trade for a new 230SX. Its a 230SX with the standup bolsters (not an option anymore) 502Mag, all red. maybe 450hrs. I had the prop labbed by Dennis Cavanaugh (merc racing), it ran 72 on GPS.. I didn't do a thing to the motor, all the maintenance has been done since new by us. The only downfall is the red is a lot of upkeep and needs to be buffed and wet sanded.

why don't you just buy my 251 without power ?? no problem putting that engine in..even set-up for a blower if you want to go even faster....Rob

looking for the bowrider and smaller boat than that.
i just sold my 242 for that reason! but thanks for the ideas.


about moving the seat, doesnt that present an issue with the hatch size and so on??

Kevin - you're still looking for that BR!

You know I ended up getting that '95 stingray 696ZP - it's the predecessor to the 230LX. I have a 454 mag in it. It runs nice for what it is - 65.5 GPS on the limiter with a beat up 23p mirage on it. Does it even with a moderate load. I (still...) haven't run the 25P mirage any faster than about 66, but I haven't had a light load to try to get more revs.

2003 was the year they moved the seat up. - check the factory website. I THINK 2002 was the only year they came with a 496 instead of the 502.

I'm looking to possibly do something like you are. I was/am happy with my boat, but a few weeks ago I stumbled across a 230LX with 502 mag and a sternjack. 150 hours, stored indoors - sounded perfect. Maybe a tad pricey - but I would have paid for it. I missed it by a week. That boat made me realize that I'd like to upgrade at least my hull at some point. No hurry, but I'd buy the right boat that either had a BB or would be an easy swap with my motor/boat.

Just note that SB thru-hulls are going to be in a different spot than the BB's. Not a huge issue. Almost all of them were B1's so you're good there.

I think stingray put those sternjacks on some of the 502's from the factory. Their website shows that the 220 never came with a BB, but I saw one last year with a claimed stock 502 and a sternjack. There is also an article on their website about sternjacks. Maybe a special build? I don't know.

On to the seat move I've heard from others that it is just a simple seat move. BUT now that you say it, I agree that the sunpad would be an issue.

The engine compartment will be different than your old check - much tighter - I don't think your blower will fit unless you raise the sunpad. So there - you have to modify the sunpad either way. I don't think it would be that hard and you could make it look (fairly) stock.

Was watching that boat for over 2years now, i actually have the dealer receipt and details on that boat. he wouldnt budge on price for the last two years or more, Eureka, Mo right?

That was the one I was gonna look at when/if I was going down to see the boat you bought!

OLD thread, I have bought a boat, an outboard checkmate BR. Great boat for what I am doing now, but will still watch for that 220/230LX to come up for sale....I've still got that 502 waiting to go in!! :drink:

Holy cow - I now realize that thread was from 2010, not 2011!!

I don't think I knew you got a new check. Heck, you could have gotten my starliner for a song. I sold it fairly cheap to a guy who kept asking "are you sure this boat has enough power" - yeah - 225 hp on a 1500lb hull - it will pull your son up out of the water on a wakeboard.

... so 'uh you really should get that 502 out of your garage - maybe sell it cheap to someone who could put it in... something...blue and white and about 23' feet long?!

Probably would be a bit of a project - like I said though raising the sunpad wouldn't be all that bad.

I'll PM you in a few weeks on the check site (going on vaca tomorrow).

Take care-
Anthony

make me an offer
 

i just might let it go.

it is a nice motor, pushed my 24 checkmate to 73 mph!

all the 454 access from your existing motor will/should bolt right on and you can go...the only thing i would do different is a different cam than whats in it.

wonder what it would do in your boat, your going 65 now, I gained 17mph from that motor in my old boat. I would think you should to....imagine 80+ in your stingray.....thats what i have been thinking of all this time!

Stop teasing me - I just checked this thread before we take off for vaca. Now the whole time we're on the "wife's vacation", I'm going to be thinking about raising that sunpad, what $ your motor would cost and and how hard it would all be.

I know my current set up has a few more mph left in it - prop, dialing in trim and getting the boat light (for once). Plus my motor has ~ 500hrs on it and I'm sure it's no longer putting out the full 385hp (stock with just a hardin / K&N filter). So yeah - 80 could be in reach with your motor. Would need a steering upgrade too.

Or imagine proping "down" and running 75 with a boatload of people. Either way it'd surprise some people.

Let's touch base end of the summer and see what we're both thinking. I lost your # - so PM it to me.

I have a 94 stingray 698 which is 23' the older version of the 230sx anyways mine came with a 330hp bb and i installed a 525sc in it runs 78 with 4 people with 25p prop