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endeavour32 06-17-2010 08:20 PM

oil temp sensor placement
 
Where is the best place to put an oil temp sensor? I'm running a Hardin XS 10 qt pan and a merc hp 500 horizontal mount themostatic oil filter housing. I can mount it in the pan as there are plenty of fittings in it for that or there is what appears to be a spot on the filter housing. I think this is where the choke switch goes but I will be running a pro-systems carb and won't have a choke. Thanks in advance!

My Addiction 06-17-2010 09:00 PM

in the oil filter housing. That is where Hardin told me to put mine.

Sledge Hammer 06-17-2010 09:10 PM

I have always heard in the pan. In fact, my engine builder welded a bung in the pan so he could put it there.

Rookie 06-17-2010 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Sledge Hammer (Post 3138933)
I have always heard in the pan. In fact, my engine builder welded a bung in the pan so he could put it there.

I've read in the pan a lot also, but the shear heat the oil sees after going through the oil pump should also be taken into account. I measure mine before the cooler. Best case scenario is before and after the cooler.

I have heard that some people put a 270*F alarm sendor in the pan which I think I just might do. Ill tie it into the alarm buzzer and a LED.

endeavour32 06-17-2010 09:42 PM

I'm having Dave @ Wesco build my short block. I'll see what he says when I pick it up.

Griff 06-18-2010 01:40 AM

My vote is for the the oil pan.

Young Performance 06-18-2010 09:25 AM

I put them either in the oil filter housing (after the cooler) or in the block only if they are in the flow of oil. You do not want to put them in a dead end passage that is not directly in the flow of oil. It will not read correctly.
By putting it in the pan, you take the cooler out of the equation. Lets say the oil is 250* in the pan. If you have a larger cooler than the oil going into the engine may be 200*. If you have a smaller cooler, than it may be 230*. I want to know what the oil temp is that the engine is seeing, not what it is after it has made it way through the bearings and been beat up by the crank.
In a Gen VI block, a good place to put it is just above the stock oil filter pad. In the aftermarket blocks, I put it in the filter housing.
Eddie

endeavour32 06-18-2010 10:27 AM

Eddie,
What do you suggest on a Mark IV block? In the block or remote adaptor?

Strip Poker 388 06-18-2010 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3139226)
I put them either in the oil filter housing (after the cooler) or in the block only if they are in the flow of oil. You do not want to put them in a dead end passage that is not directly in the flow of oil. It will not read correctly.
By putting it in the pan, you take the cooler out of the equation. Lets say the oil is 250* in the pan. If you have a larger cooler than the oil going into the engine may be 200*. If you have a smaller cooler, than it may be 230*. I want to know what the oil temp is that the engine is seeing, not what it is after it has made it way through the bearings and been beat up by the crank.
In a Gen VI block, a good place to put it is just above the stock oil filter pad. In the aftermarket blocks, I put it in the filter housing.
Eddie

Eddie thats what I was thinking ,what the temp is going back in is.

I guess another way to look at it say if the oil in the pan was like over 350 ,that would so a problem?

Young Performance 06-18-2010 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by endeavour32 (Post 3139290)
Eddie,
What do you suggest on a Mark IV block? In the block or remote adaptor?

I would put it in the oil filter housing. On a Mk IV, the oil passage just above the stock oil filter pad is quite a bit from the main flow of oil. If you look into that passage, you will see that it is at least 3" to the main oil galley. I would think that is far enough away from the main oil flow so that you may not get an accurate reading.
The most ideal situation would be to have 2 temp sensors...one in the pan and one in the block or filter housing. That way you would know how hot the oil got and how efficient your cooler is. It's just not that practical for most boats. Most don't have the room for another gauge.
Eddie

ezstriper 06-21-2010 06:18 AM

I put mine in the remote filter adapter..works fine...temps right where they should be...

oldnordic guy 06-03-2011 03:54 PM

Eddie, mine is in the rear of my dooley 14qt pan and it runs about 300*. I guess I should add another one but, my oil cooler lines come off the two fitting above the oil fliter. Where else could i put one?
steve

cloudmaster_321 06-03-2011 11:12 PM

I'm confused on the oil routing on a stock 502 MPI, gen 5. I don't know if the oil that comes out of the block filter adapter goes through the remote oil filter first, or the oil cooler first? My engine is actually a gen 6 block, but with gen 5 accessories.

Budman II 06-03-2011 11:24 PM

Someone had an interesting idea of using 2 senders - one before the cooler and one somewhere after, and then using a toggle switch to route both senders to the same gauge. With the flip of a switch, you can instantly see the temp before and after the cooler without taking up more space on your dash.

Mine is in the pan. I doubt if it makes a huge difference as long as it is exposed to a good flow of oil. You are really just watching out for an unusual spike in temperature - which would indicate that something is wrong. Once you get things dialed in, oil temps should stay pretty consistent.

dagah2x 06-04-2011 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 3419947)
I'm confused on the oil routing on a stock 502 MPI, gen 5. I don't know if the oil that comes out of the block filter adapter goes through the remote oil filter first, or the oil cooler first? My engine is actually a gen 6 block, but with gen 5 accessories.

My 502mpi gen6 goes from the block adapter to the remote oil filter and then the cooler.

ezstriper 06-04-2011 10:08 AM

I would never put in the block....one the block becomes heated would give false readings I would thing...block temp mixed with oil temp...

cloudmaster_321 06-04-2011 12:24 PM

Ok, so the side outlet of the block adapter is the output, goes up to the remote filter, outputs to the cooler, then back into the center fitting of the block adapter........ correct?

dagah2x 06-05-2011 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 3420175)
Ok, so the side outlet of the block adapter is the output, goes up to the remote filter, outputs to the cooler, then back into the center fitting of the block adapter........ correct?

You got it.


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