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Am I propped wrong??
Here is my set up, 88 Baja 240 sport, 454 mag, bravo one out drive, 4 blade 23 pitch. I'm not sure of the gears in the drive but I know everything is stock. I am only able to get to about 4100 rpm at wot, which only gets me to about 54 mph, I know the boat is capable of more, especially since I have the mag motor, I am able to rev to 4600 rpm in neutral. Should I be looking for something else or do I just have the wrong prop??
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Try a 23 three blade prop.
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Yes, you are over-propped. Years ago I had a Baja 240 with a 502Mag. The 23P 3-blade Mirage was the best for that set-up. With the 454Mag you may be more in the range of a 21P. That engine should WOT closer to 4800, however, it's best NOT to do it in neutral. :eek:
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Originally Posted by Holy Smokes
(Post 3196164)
Yes, you are over-propped. Years ago I had a Baja 240 with a 502Mag. The 23P 3-blade Mirage was the best for that set-up. With the 454Mag you may be more in the range of a 21P. That engine should WOT closer to 4800, however, not best NOT to do it in neutral. :eek:
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Im guessing a 21P Mirage Plus too. Your operating range is 4600 to 5000 RPM with a mag motor. You will probably gain about 600 RPM with the 21P which should put you around 4700 and in your powerband.
--Right now your damaging your engine by running it at such a low RPM vs what it was designed to perform at. I would change props as soon as possible. |
Originally Posted by rchevelle71
(Post 3196203)
Yup, I would guess 21 Mirage Plus, I happen to have one for sale if he needs it:drink:
And thanks for your alls input, everyone here has always been very helpful! |
Originally Posted by astar77350
(Post 3198822)
What brand, what condition, and how much?
And thanks for your alls input, everyone here has always been very helpful! You have a PM:drink: |
I just sold this same boat this year (1997) with the 454 non-mag and found the 3 blade 23P Mirage plus put me right where I needed to be. Was going to send it out to be labbed but sold it to buy another boat.
So the mag motor should push a 3 blade 23P just fine. |
A friend is lending me a mercury marine ss 21p. I have never changed out a prop, is it difficult to do?
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A agree a 21 should put your rpms in the right area. But shouldn't this boat pull a 23 M+???
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Originally Posted by onesickpantera
(Post 3199152)
A agree a 21 should put your rpms in the right area. But shouldn't this boat pull a 23 M+???
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I have a Rinker 236 with a 502EFI Mag and use a 3 blade 21 Pitch Mercrury Mirage and run 4800 RPM's . When I use a 23 Pitch it drops me down to 4500 RPM's. So I would also suggest dropping down to a 21.
It use to be that Mercury Marine gave out blue colored props to Marinas as for ppl to try so they could decide which prop worked best for them . Don't know if they still do it though . You'll have to ask your local marine shop about that. A 4 blade prop is popular for ppl who like better hole shot and quicker planeing. Although I do know some ppl who swear they get better top end from a 4 blade . I tried one and it took off 3 MPH off my top end. Also with those motors I believe Mercury suggest you use a Solid Hub prop because of the torque the Mag motors put out. |
Originally Posted by Greggcellent
(Post 3199233)
I have a Rinker 236 with a 502EFI Mag and use a 3 blade 21 Pitch Mercrury Mirage and run 4800 RPM's . When I use a 23 Pitch it drops me down to 4500 RPM's. So I would also suggest dropping down to a 21.
It use to be that Mercury Marine gave out blue colored props to Marinas as for ppl to try so they could decide which prop worked best for them . Don't know if they still do it though . You'll have to ask your local marine shop about that. A 4 blade prop is popular for ppl who like better hole shot and quicker planeing. Although I do know some ppl who swear they get better top end from a 4 blade . I tried one and it took off 3 MPH off my top end. Also with those motors I believe Mercury suggest you use a Solid Hub prop because of the torque the Mag motors put out. |
Im trying to trade a 23p Mirage Plus for a 21p if that could somehow help. Thanks, Rob
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...us-rh-21p.html |
Alright, just tried out a 21p 3blade. Not impressed, I felt way under prop. The first thing I noticed was a lack of bite, I knew my hole shot would be slower but I had to rev to 4000 rpms just to get on plane, I think I was slipping a lot. Once i was cruising and went for top speed I stopped at 4800 rpm, I wasn't at WOT. But I didn't want to push the engine any more than that. As for top speed I was able to get to about 57gps (top with 4blade23 was 54). So I'm thinking that going with other suggestions of a 23p. Any other suggestions from people way more qualified than me, haha!
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Originally Posted by astar77350
(Post 3200226)
Alright, just tried out a 21p 3blade. Not impressed, I felt way under prop. The first thing I noticed was a lack of bite, I knew my hole shot would be slower but I had to rev to 4000 rpms just to get on plane, I think I was slipping a lot. Once i was cruising and went for top speed I stopped at 4800 rpm, I wasn't at WOT. But I didn't want to push the engine any more than that. As for top speed I was able to get to about 57gps (top with 4blade23 was 54). So I'm thinking that going with other suggestions of a 23p. Any other suggestions from people way more qualified than me, haha!
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any boat with a stock big block or stock small block in the range of 19 to 23 ft with a v-8 and has 1.50 gears in drive is going to run a 21-23 p prop in a 3 blade, but my guess would be a 21 p in a good clean stainless. its got to be a 14.5 or 143/4 diam. prop
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The brand is a mercury marine laser II. The number on the side is 48-16546 21p. Not sure of the diameter maybe these numbers will help.
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Originally Posted by astar77350
(Post 3200388)
The brand is a mercury marine laser II. The number on the side is 48-16546 21p. Not sure of the diameter maybe these numbers will help.
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Sorry for my ignorance but when you say cup, what are you referring too?
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Originally Posted by astar77350
(Post 3200774)
Sorry for my ignorance but when you say cup, what are you referring too?
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Gotcha, that makes sense now, well I will keep u guys updated on my trials.
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Originally Posted by astar77350
(Post 3200388)
The brand is a mercury marine laser II. The number on the side is 48-16546 21p. Not sure of the diameter maybe these numbers will help.
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Difference between Mirage and Mirage Plus????
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Originally Posted by Powerquest_Baby!!
(Post 3196290)
Im guessing a 21P Mirage Plus too. Your operating range is 4600 to 5000 RPM with a mag motor. You will probably gain about 600 RPM with the 21P which should put you around 4700 and in your powerband.
--Right now your damaging your engine by running it at such a low RPM vs what it was designed to perform at. I would change props as soon as possible. Also ....what temp should this motor be running at? Right now it running at 140 /150 ...which I think is cool but my mechanic said leave it alone. Good or bad? |
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