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SDFever 12-18-2010 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Rage (Post 3277707)
My upper X gears only broke when I over proped with a 26P5X and ran it hard.

So your 'second' X drive failure was a shaft and not the upper gears. Assuming the 'first' X drive failure was gears, how many hours before it failed and what prop were you running?

I'm actually trying to remember now. I remember it "sticking" in forward gear. It saw a lot of air time. I was always quick on the throttle but back on it pretty fast and hard after re-entry.

Drove the boat like a rental car at the time. It was my fault.

This XR has been treated nicely. Still thankful I caught it before it let go but how much is that really worth now??

SDFever 12-18-2010 11:06 AM

The first X drive that took most of the abuse had prob close to 300 hours.

JaayTeee 12-18-2010 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3277700)
ICD, I'm not sure what to say about your issue. However, I used two of my X's like pack mules before I upgraded to the XR.

I mean, with NO exaggeration... I beat the absolute snot out of those two drives. Took a long time to break.

And the 2nd one only broke due to my decision to over-prop the boat for too long.

I was going to send the prop in for work but I was using the boat 3 - 4 times every week and just put it off.

I knew it was over-propped and it finally broke the shaft. But I think it would still be going had I been more diligent about propping it correctly, sooner...

If it makes you feel any better, I've broke both
an XR vertical shaft and a XR prop shaft on one drive.

So, again, the other XR components used arent indestructable
either.

I basically know what I did to it when I broke the propshaft
( running at the shootout, hard acceleration and trim issues)

Replacing a shaft is easier to stomach than replacing a XR upper gear set, which you dont know how long it will last.

I've come to the conclusion of yearly inspections, and
frequent magnet checks are how you have to deal with
these things.

SDFever 12-18-2010 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by JaayTeee (Post 3277726)
If it makes you feel any better, I've broke both
an XR vertical shaft and a XR prop shaft on one drive.

So, again, the other XR components used arent indestructable
either.

I basically know what I did to it when I broke the propshaft
( running at the shootout, hard acceleration and trim issues)

Replacing a shaft is easier to stomach than replacing a XR upper gear set, which you dont know how long it will last.

I've come to the conclusion of yearly inspections, and
frequent magnet checks are how you have to deal with
these things.

I hear ya. I've not had this drive for more than about 8 months. There's no way it would have run for a year in this case.

The XR prop shaft is the same as a Bravo I on the "other" end. The splines were twisting on the one inch shaft so they made it 1.25 in the prop load area and left the rest the same!! (talking about the end that goes into the gear)

The XR is really a band-aid. At least from my perspective.. Artificial sense of additional peace of mind.

80 - 100 hour tear downs seem to be a good call.

SDFever 12-18-2010 11:31 AM

I should be on the water right now. Weather has sucked azz this year.

:angry-smiley-038:

Rage 12-18-2010 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3277719)
The first X drive that took most of the abuse had prob close to 300 hours.

What prop was on it most of the time and what prop was on it when the upper X1 gears failed?

Would you consider returning to a Bravo X drive as an option?

SDFever 12-18-2010 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Rage (Post 3277775)
What prop was on it most of the time and what prop was on it when the upper X1 gears failed?

Would you consider returning to a Bravo X drive as an option?

I had a stock 28 behind the stock 496 with excessive wake jumping etc.

Regarding going back to an X - I don't know yet. That's basically what you're doing when / if you put X gears in an XR Case.

If I choose to go back, it's cheaper to put those gears in my drive then to get another X Drive from scratch..

I really want that ASD-6 Conversion. That's the ONLY real solution. Forget all this 90 degree crap.

SDFever 12-18-2010 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3277781)
I really want that ASD-6 Conversion. That's the ONLY real solution. Forget all this 90 degree crap.

This way, I can break my crankshaft.

:kiss:

Rage 12-18-2010 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3277781)
I had a stock 28 behind the stock 496 with excessive wake jumping etc.

Oh.

I thought that the 300 hours with the X1 gears was with your current 600hp+.

How many hours did you run X1 upper gears with the 600hp+ w/o breaking the gears and what prop with that?

SDFever 12-18-2010 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rage (Post 3277794)
Oh.

I thought that the 300 hours with the X1 gears was with your current 600hp+.

How many hours did you run X1 upper gears with the 600hp+ w/o breaking the gears and what prop with that?

Have to look in my laptop to be exact. I ran a stock 30 with the 600 on the 1.65 X Drive for at least another 350 hours. Until this year, I've averaged 300 - 400 hours per year run time.

Been through a lot. Drives, props, other parts. It honestly doesn't seem to matter to me regarding hours. Problem is, I'm at a power range where there really isn't a solid direction to go in unless you wanna put a surface drive on it.

Chit breaks. Bottom line.


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