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Need and Engine Expert
I have two questions:
1.) How many water drain plugs are on a 454 Bowtie block casting #10051107? I can only see one on the starter side but want to be sure for winterizing 2.) Approx how much antifreeze does the block itself hold if pouring in from the intake manifold? I would appreciate your help |
Originally Posted by superboat1982
(Post 3271891)
I have two questions:
1.) How many water drain plugs are on a 454 Bowtie block casting #10051107? I can only see one on the starter side but want to be sure for winterizing 2.) Approx how much antifreeze does the block itself hold if pouring in from the intake manifold? I would appreciate your help |
You can't really just drain and pour in anti freeze. What kind of drives are you running? I would recommend pulling the thermo stats and running the boat on a hose that is drawing from a bucket full of antifreeze. It will probably take 4.5 gallons, but buy the extra gallon - cheap insurance.
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Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown
(Post 3271904)
You can't really just drain and pour in anti freeze. What kind of drives are you running? I would recommend pulling the thermo stats and running the boat on a hose that is drawing from a bucket full of antifreeze. It will probably take 4.5 gallons, but buy the extra gallon - cheap insurance.
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Or just hook up antifreeze up to the water intake, run the boat till you get antifreeze out the exhaust and you are done..no need to drain anything...fog thru carb with ATF after you get anti thru...Rob
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Originally Posted by ezstriper
(Post 3272031)
Or just hook up antifreeze up to the water intake, run the boat till you get antifreeze out the exhaust and you are done..no need to drain anything...fog thru carb with ATF after you get anti thru...Rob
Depending on where you boat, its a good idea to drain the block to get sand/dirt out of the block. Buy a gallon of antifreeze mix it 50/50 and pour it down the intake manifold. |
Ok, this has been covered so many times. This is how I do it.
Flush the engine with fresh water and warm up the engine. Drain the water. Get a hose and suck the RV antifreize out of a bucket into the engine until it comes out of the tips. |
Originally Posted by jeffswav
(Post 3272092)
Ok, this has been covered so many times. This is how I do it.
Flush the engine with fresh water and warm up the engine. Drain the water. Get a hose and suck the RV antifreize out of a bucket into the engine until it comes out of the tips. |
Originally Posted by Flyin-Bryan
(Post 3272022)
So if I pull the block drains,drain out all the water,I pour in antifreeze in through the big hose in the circ pump until I start to see if run out of the block drains,install the block drains and keep adding until it overflows out of the thermostat housing,this does not take care of the block for the winter?
You can do it this way, but IMO you're not covering everything properly. I prefer running antifreeze through the drives, seawater pump, etc., you can rely on gravity to get it out if you'd like, but I prefer forcing antifreeze through everything. Plus, it's more difficult to pump the antifreeze through the circ pump than it is to muff the drives with ears, or rig something so the seawater pump sucks the antifreeze for you. |
Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown
(Post 3272273)
You can do it this way, but IMO you're not covering everything properly. I prefer running antifreeze through the drives, seawater pump, etc., you can rely on gravity to get it out if you'd like, but I prefer forcing antifreeze through everything.
Plus, it's more difficult to pump the antifreeze through the circ pump than it is to muff the drives with ears, or rig something so the seawater pump sucks the antifreeze for you. |
Originally Posted by dbkski
(Post 3277965)
Your thinking is somewhat "bass ackwards". If you drain all the water out of your block making
sure that the drain holes are clear then go ahead and put them back in. You can't fill the block through the big hose "until it overflows out of the thermostat housing" since it is lower than the thermostat assembly. It will be close to full but not quite. YES this will be O.K. for the block but not for other things. |
Originally Posted by dbkski
(Post 3278402)
Dude you're now arguing for the sake of arguing. It is lower by an inch or two.
I don't worry about that little void at the top of the block since I run an additional 2 gallons of antifreeze through the system using the "bucket method" after I manually fill the block. If you can pull up on the hose, hold a funnel, and pour a jug of antifreeze without making a mess in your bilge then go for it. |
Originally Posted by dbkski
(Post 3278445)
If that is the case then I would remove the thermostat housing assembly and pour
the antifreeze directly into the opening. That will get it the "fullest". A project engine should have it's thermostats replaced. What you did is fine. |
Originally Posted by Flyin-Bryan
(Post 3277823)
Thanks for your response,but my question was for the engine only,would this be o.k. ?anyone else?
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Originally Posted by superboat1982
(Post 3271891)
I have two questions:
1.) How many water drain plugs are on a 454 Bowtie block casting #10051107? I can only see one on the starter side but want to be sure for winterizing 2.) Approx how much antifreeze does the block itself hold if pouring in from the intake manifold? I would appreciate your help |
I pulled my motor this year before winterizing. Took manifolds off. Drained everything and filled the block through thermostat housing. Took about 3.5 gallons.
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