boy do i feel like a dumba$$, first off let me say thank you to everyone who responded to this and for their input on this issue, turns out their was no issue,:angry-smiley-038: i realized that i had to have the batteries on and the key turned on for it to work, all the years with my baja i never knew of this, though i never used the trim button when i was running it on the trailer or raising it back up on the trailer, always the trailer button, thanks again to everyones response, oso is an awesome site!