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toolsinbox 02-15-2011 06:22 PM

502 casting
 
I have a guy who has a 502 for sale and he will be giving me the casting numbers tomorrow. He was not sure but said he thought they were all the same. Are they? What do I look for? Thanks in advance for info.

HaxbySpeed 02-15-2011 06:31 PM

There's a big 8.2 on the side of the block

Fast Shafts 02-15-2011 06:32 PM

When you get the casting numbers, google "Big block Chevy casting numbers", there will be several sites that will come up with the casting numbers-it will show the year made, bore, stroke etc. It really is simple to look these up-once you have the numbers. Once you have the casting numbers you can determine EXACTLY what you have-the year Generation IV, V, VI etc. Same goes fot the heads. Hope this helps.

toolsinbox 02-15-2011 07:02 PM

thats great info. I just dont want to get scammed and get a 454 block. This short block is two provences away from me so I want to make sure what I am getting

Fast Shafts 02-15-2011 07:09 PM

The 454 is a 4.25" bore (roughly) the 502 is 4.5" bore (roughly), so even a simple measurement across the pistons on the short block would let you know.

toolsinbox 02-15-2011 07:41 PM

Thanks fastshafts

I will ask the guy to make dam sure its a 502 before I pull the trigger. I cant measure anything as the block is 600 miles away. I did not know there is a big 8.2 on the side. Which side would it be on? What are the differences in the generation 4 5 6 ?

FIXX 02-15-2011 08:07 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by toolsinbox (Post 3327390)
Thanks fastshafts

I will ask the guy to make dam sure its a 502 before I pull the trigger. I cant measure anything as the block is 600 miles away. I did not know there is a big 8.2 on the side. Which side would it be on? What are the differences in the generation 4 5 6 ?

if you have pics the mark block will have round holes for coolant passages on the deck of the block where the heads rest..the gen v will not have a roller cam and their will be no raised castings in the lifter valley for the roller lifter retainer,also their will be diamond shape coolant passages for the coolant where the heads rest,,their will also be a steel timing cover..GenVI has the same as the gen V but the timing cover will be plastic and it will have a roller cam with the casting provisions for the roller lifter retainer..Both gen V and VI wont have a fuel pump boss..

if its a bowtie block their will be a raised chevy emblem casted in the side of the block..

If you have pics send them to me,,[email protected]

ill let you know what it is..

toolsinbox 02-15-2011 08:27 PM

Thanks mrfixall.

I will ask for pics from the guy. he will be giving me a shipping quote in the morning. I will get them to you as soon as I get them. Thanks for your help on this.

So if I want a full roller engine I want the mark IV or VI as it is set up for it. If its a V and I want roller I need to add that lifter girdle thing that adds mass and is not ideal. Am I understanding that right?

FIXX 02-15-2011 09:08 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by toolsinbox (Post 3327442)
Thanks mrfixall.

I will ask for pics from the guy. he will be giving me a shipping quote in the morning. I will get them to you as soon as I get them. Thanks for your help on this.

So if I want a full roller engine I want the mark IV or VI as it is set up for it. If its a V and I want roller I need to add that lifter girdle thing that adds mass and is not ideal. Am I understanding that right?

just the Gen VI comes with factory roller cam..1996 and up is gen VI..Gen V is 1992-1995..and before 1992 was the mark and the bowtie blocks some with fuel pump provisions..

with the correct lifter you can make any big block a roller cam set up..the gen VI is limited to .575 lift with the factory lifters,,if you go higher then .575 then you will loose oil pressure and the lifters will get noisy and in come cases you will loose power over 5k rpms..

Young Performance 02-16-2011 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3327488)
the gen VI is limited to .575 lift with the factory lifters,,if you go higher then .575 then you will loose oil pressure and the lifters will get noisy and in come cases you will loose power over 5k rpms..

Sorry, but that's not true. With a Gen VI cam core ground correctly, you can run up to about .640 lift with the stock Gen VI lifters. I have done it countless times. You just have to check the lifters to be sure they don't come out of the dog bones both in the up and down position. The stock Gen VI lifters are excellent pieces that VERY rarely fail.
Eddie

FIXX 02-16-2011 02:43 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3327812)
Sorry, but that's not true. With a Gen VI cam core ground correctly, you can run up to about .640 lift with the stock Gen VI lifters. I have done it countless times. You just have to check the lifters to be sure they don't come out of the dog bones both in the up and down position. The stock Gen VI lifters are excellent pieces that VERY rarely fail.
Eddie

Whatever!:drink:

toolsinbox 02-16-2011 07:07 PM

The guy never e-mail d me today or called. grrrrrrrrrr. I tried calling a few minits ago and they must be closed. I left message and will call at lunch tomorrow.

toolsinbox 02-18-2011 04:30 PM

I sent mrfixall the pics that I just got so i cant wait to here what block it is

FIXX 02-18-2011 04:46 PM

Fixx
 
It is a gen VI or IIV,it has the roller cam set up.., sorry but its not a 502,it has a flex plate instead of a flywheel which talls me its out of a truck..

hard to make out the casting numbers,chitty pic...

if i were to guess from looking at it its a 8100 vortech truck motor..

toolsinbox 02-18-2011 04:53 PM

so what is an 8100 vortec block? is it a 454 ? I see the casting number as
2556110 is that what you see?

FIXX 02-18-2011 05:00 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by toolsinbox (Post 3330322)
so what is an 8100 vortec block? is it a 454 ? I see the casting number as
2556110 is that what you see?

i sent yu a email,,after cleaning up the pic i came up with 12556110, 8100 vortech truck,,from the looks of it it came out of a 4500.5500.6500 series truck..

toolsinbox 02-18-2011 05:02 PM

ok let me check that out

toolsinbox 02-18-2011 05:04 PM

loud and clear lolol I am out of breath already.
Hey thanks fixx for your help.

Well folks back to the drawing board not a 502 but a 496. I was so stoked I just sent the guy a note and told no dice

Advantage 575 02-18-2011 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3327812)
Sorry, but that's not true. With a Gen VI cam core ground correctly, you can run up to about .640 lift with the stock Gen VI lifters. I have done it countless times. You just have to check the lifters to be sure they don't come out of the dog bones both in the up and down position. The stock Gen VI lifters are excellent pieces that VERY rarely fail.
Eddie

X2. Run .612 int .640 ext set up works great

Rockfish71 02-18-2011 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3327812)
Sorry, but that's not true. With a Gen VI cam core ground correctly, you can run up to about .640 lift with the stock Gen VI lifters. I have done it countless times. You just have to check the lifters to be sure they don't come out of the dog bones both in the up and down position. The stock Gen VI lifters are excellent pieces that VERY rarely fail.
Eddie

Eddie's Right.... I have been running Gen VI hardware @ .630/.631 with all the stock hardware works perfect and is
almost the best to run. = @ camshaft 0.353 lift but you have to run the right grid "base circle" to make it work right. plus I run 60 psi plus for oil pressure stock pump that's all you need.

toolsinbox 02-19-2011 04:10 PM

ok I have another short block to check out. here are the numbers. 10237300 I looked it up and and it shows a gen 6- 4 bolt main. I will send fixx a pic as soon as I get it.

Eliminator28 02-19-2011 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by toolsinbox (Post 3330972)
ok I have another short block to check out. here are the numbers. 10237300 I looked it up and and it shows a gen 6- 4 bolt main. I will send fixx a pic as soon as I get it.

That's a 502 block, gen VI.

toolsinbox 02-20-2011 09:12 PM

I sent pic to mrfixx
engine says crusader in crome valve covers hang on I will upload to photobucket so all can see. here is the link let me know what you think

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a.../502engine.jpg

toolsinbox 03-01-2011 06:37 PM

Any reason to stay away from a tall deck 454? it has a single piece rear main seal. What are the pros and cons please. I am interested if there are any limitations to this type of block.

casting number. 10114182

FIXX 03-01-2011 07:29 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by toolsinbox (Post 3339339)
Seller says its a 90s 454 but could be a tall deck.
Thanks

Ok found the info.

10114182

make sure its not reverse rotation..Crusader engine

FIXX 03-01-2011 07:32 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by toolsinbox (Post 3339339)
Seller says its a 90s 454 but could be a tall deck.
Thanks

Ok found the info.

10114182

make sure its not reverse rotation..Crusader engine


10114182 gen V 454...standard.


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