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glen george 02-21-2011 06:19 PM

alternator upgrade 55 AMP vs ?
 
Looking to replace my 55 amp 15 year old alt with a higher output, I run a single 540 bbc , my 2 batterys seem to need toping off with A batery charger sometimes. Would i be safe with a aftermarket 105 amp?

Sledge Hammer 02-21-2011 06:32 PM

Not sure what you mean by safe. I have been using a 105 amp for two years without issue. I only have one battery. Perhaps you are concerned it may not be enough?

wjb21ndtown 02-21-2011 06:55 PM

Most people worry that the higher amp alt. will over charge, charge too fast and ruin, or otherwise wear out their batteries. The voltage regulator takes care of over-charging, and I've never had an issue with a battery wearing out too fast from charging too fast, but there are a few battery experts on here that I'm sure will chime in and provide some more sound advice.

glen george 02-21-2011 06:59 PM

Ive Been looking at delco alternators, from 55 to 110 amps. im trying not to over load my electrical system. I have found out the more amps the more HP it takes to run it, with and internal regulator, it wont let me over charge the batterys. Is this info correct? like looking at cough syrup and not sure which one is best, thanks for your imput.

US1 Fountain 02-21-2011 07:03 PM

I'd believe you'll have to upgrade to a heavier wire for the higher output. 6 AWG at min. possibly even 4 AWG. The alt will only put out, up to it's potential, depending on the load draw... state of battery charge. That's the regs. job. Gotta have the right rated wire so you don't burn it up. Then chit can get interesting if no fuse inline.

glen george 02-21-2011 07:10 PM

I was hoping for plug and play,not FIRE , im still running the 1994 55amp. looking at aftermarket .http://www.dbelectrical.com/ I think i will order the 65amp replacement.

US1 Fountain 02-21-2011 07:25 PM

Doesn't matter. You have to change it out.
A 55A alt can use a 8AWG wire at min. (Not sure what Merc used, but doubt it was larger than needed for a 55A.)
A 105 will require that wire to be upgraded. It's a simple 3' replacement from Alt to starter solenoid. The battey cable will handle the starter to battery circut. You'll have to check and see if you have a fuse at the starter in that alt wire. It might need upgraded too .

glen george 02-21-2011 07:32 PM

I will replace that wire now , thanks for the info.

n20michael 02-21-2011 07:43 PM

I think you need to upgrade the ground wire too, never hurts to use a bigger than needed gauge of wire. I have also been told to stay away from the 1 wire set ups and to use the traditional 3 wire set ups

glen george 02-21-2011 07:45 PM

3 wire is my plan.

US1 Fountain 02-21-2011 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by glen george (Post 3332429)
I was hoping for plug and play,not FIRE , im still running the 1994 55amp. looking at aftermarket .http://www.dbelectrical.com/ I think i will order the 65amp replacement.

As long as the existing wire is at least an 8AWG wire. ;)

glen george 02-21-2011 08:13 PM

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My engine bay without the motor. wire upgrade will be easy . Fresh 540 to go back in this spring. Looking at the wiring diagram, its the orange wire fron the alt to the starter that i need to increase .

kennyo 02-22-2011 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by glen george (Post 3332429)
I was hoping for plug and play,not FIRE , im still running the 1994 55amp. looking at aftermarket .http://www.dbelectrical.com/ I think i will order the 65amp replacement.

I've been running DB's 105 amp. Definitely upgrade charge wire and connectors. They have awesome affordable products!

Thunderstruck27 02-22-2011 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by glen george (Post 3332429)
I was hoping for plug and play,not FIRE , im still running the 1994 55amp. looking at aftermarket .http://www.dbelectrical.com/ I think i will order the 65amp replacement.

Post a pic of your checkmate...can't tell too much from the avatar.

glen george 02-22-2011 04:07 PM

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2010 onieda lake n.y. pictures. looking at the wire diagram, I know now what wires to upgrade. Thanks for the input.

rexcramer1 02-22-2011 08:05 PM

I used to run a 65 amp on my Liberator and two batteries with no problems. Keep in mind most alternators make their rated output at 2000 rpms. If you idle a lot you will not be making full output and may want to go to a 90 or 105, but if a 65 will get the job done their is no advantage to going oversized.

glen george 02-22-2011 08:35 PM

I dont idle alot, but this year with fuel price$ up again, I may sit more and relax than up/down the lake.

Uncle Dave 02-22-2011 09:40 PM

Make sure you have a wide enough belt- if you really up the amperage you need a wider belt.

I have 2-pc2150's a full nav system (with a 4KW radar) and run a 165 AMP alternator off a serpentine belt.

Balmar is a great resource for marine alternators and information.


Uncle Dave

glen george 02-23-2011 04:49 AM

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1/2" belt. I ordered a 65 amp. Thanks for all your inpiut.

Uncle Dave 02-23-2011 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by glen george (Post 3333709)
1/2" belt

balmar reccomends 110 amp max.

http://www.balmar.net/2011-Balmar-Product-Guide.pdf

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