Adjusting Idle on a 600SC
Im not a big carb guru so I thought I would post up in here. I have searched the forum as well, but I guess I'm looking for a solid answer. From what I've read, to adjust the idle on the carb, you use a vacuum gauge to adjust the 4 fuel delivery screws (2x on each holley 700). They are set right at the highest vacuum reading, correct? Then you adjust each idle screw (1x on each holley) to set the idle speed. I did some minor adjustments, out of water, and got the engine to idle at 1000rpm, but plan to adjust in water with a vacuum gauge. Before, it would idle around 1200 to 1300 (previous owner had both carbs rebuilt) rpms, but from what I read, is a bit too high. Is 1000rpm, assuming the vacuum readings are right, an okay neutral idle speed to not damage the drive? I know I have to adjust more because if you rev the engine a bit, the idle drops low for a split second, but not to the point of stalling. Im thinking this would cause a stall in water though.. Any help, to adjust these correctly, to a carb newb is appreciated...
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Originally Posted by sleev-les
(Post 3379864)
Im not a big carb guru so I thought I would post up in here. I have searched the forum as well, but I guess I'm looking for a solid answer. From what I've read, to adjust the idle on the carb, you use a vacuum gauge to adjust the 4 fuel delivery screws (2x on each holley 700). They are set right at the highest vacuum reading, correct? Then you adjust each idle screw (1x on each holley) to set the idle speed. I did some minor adjustments, out of water, and got the engine to idle at 1000rpm, but plan to adjust in water with a vacuum gauge. Before, it would idle around 1200 to 1300 rpms, but from what I read, is a bit too high. Is 1000rpm, assuming the vacuum readings are right, an okay neutral idle speed to not damage the drive? I know I have to adjust more because if you rev the engine a bit, the idle drops low for a split second, but not to the point of stalling. Im thinking this would cause a stall in water though.. Any help to a carb newb is appreciated...
Idle is set by the stop screw, jetting is set by the air screws. A good holley guy can do it by ear :) |
Originally Posted by 4bus
(Post 3379869)
1000 is still high IMO. You should be able to idle down to 800 and lower without stall issues. If you need a high idle to keep from stalling you have air screw issues or a vacuum leak.
Idle is set by the stop screw, jetting is set by the air screws. A good holley guy can do it by ear :) |
you could have a leaking power valve causing it not want to idle down smooth enough and they just idled it up to make up for the issue...if the carbs have not been apart in a while with the B/S gas we have now....seen all kinds of crap in so many carbs lost count..good luck..Rob
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I had the same problem. Idle was 1050rpm. Give it the gas and drop it down hard. The idle would go to about 700 for just a second. Shift in gear. I did find the problem. I took off my exhaust tip mufflers. Now it idles at 800rpm and I can tell I have a lot more Horse Power.
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Assuming the carbs are physically in good shape. If you are unable to do this find a good carb guy.
Start by making sure the power valves are correct and not leaking before you start trying to adjust idle mixture and speed. If it is not the carb will be drawing off the main metering circuit and you will need a fast idle speed to compensate. Only after you have the correct power valves in place can you set mixture and idle speed. Lots of other tricks that can be done with air bleeds and such but that is best left to someone who really knows their chit. You should be able to get them to 700-800 rpm. At 1200 rpm your going to do some drive damage when shifting in to gear. |
Originally Posted by ezstriper
(Post 3380160)
you could have a leaking power valve causing it not want to idle down smooth enough and they just idled it up to make up for the issue...if the carbs have not been apart in a while with the B/S gas we have now....seen all kinds of crap in so many carbs lost count..good luck..Rob
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you really cannot set them up put of the water, when you drop in gear the prop drag will change the in gear idle & RPM, can get close but needs to be fine tuned in the water...
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Originally Posted by ezstriper
(Post 3380697)
you really cannot set them up put of the water, when you drop in gear the prop drag will change the in gear idle & RPM, can get close but needs to be fine tuned in the water...
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If you want to check vac there is a Port on the front of carb that's not used use that one. You can turn screws in all the way and go quarter turns out for adjustment to front first than back. I have a carb guy do mine. I know how to do it and still suck at it he jumps n and done in 10 mins. You need it to idle around 800 above a grand and you will kill your drive in short time.
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