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cloudmaster_321 05-02-2011 04:17 PM

Mobil 15W-50
 
What is the latest news on the 15W-50 Mobil oil? Last I read it was down on Zinc and not recommended for high performance marine engines anymore. I'm currently running Brad Penn 20W-50 semi-synthetic in a mildly upgraded 502 Mag. The Mobil is easier to come by, so just checking on the latest buzz.

Ran-Dom 32 05-02-2011 08:44 PM

I'm about ready to buy a case also, what the skinny on the mobile 1? or shoud I spread my cheeks for the amsoil, in canada it's $5 a quart vs 10 FOR AMSOIL:eek:

Rage 05-03-2011 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 3392421)
What is the latest news on the 15W-50 Mobil oil? Last I read it was down on Zinc and not recommended for high performance marine engines anymore. I'm currently running Brad Penn 20W-50 semi-synthetic in a mildly upgraded 502 Mag. The Mobil is easier to come by, so just checking on the latest buzz.

Here is one post on the subject

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...brication.html

swan2 05-04-2011 09:38 AM

Hello huys i use valvoline straigth 50w racing oil in my 502mpi is this oil going to hurt my engine? Thanks for the help.

wjb21ndtown 05-04-2011 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by swan2 (Post 3394267)
Hello huys i use valvoline straigth 50w racing oil in my 502mpi is this oil going to hurt my engine? Thanks for the help.

Valvoline makes a good oil. I may be switching to their straight 50 race oil if I can't find the 20-50 Mobile 1 that I normally use. It's either that or Royal Purple for me.

The only name brand oil that I caution against is Casteroil. IMO its garbage.

UrbanDisturbance 05-04-2011 10:06 AM

Great....this is new news to me....I put Mobile 1 15/50 in my 600hp supercharged motors this year. Ran the engines hard for 1 hour. 4200 - 5500rpm. :poopoo:

swan2 05-04-2011 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown (Post 3394274)
Valvoline makes a good oil. I may be switching to their straight 50 race oil if I can't find the 20-50 Mobile 1 that I normally use. It's either that or Royal Purple for me.

The only name brand oil that I caution against is Casteroil. IMO its garbage.

Thanks I have been using it now for a few years and have had no problems and you can get it at just about any parts store thanks for the reply back.

kennyo 05-04-2011 03:19 PM

VR racing series has more zddp I think.

BDiggity 05-04-2011 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by kennyo (Post 3394612)
VR racing series has more zddp I think.

I have been using Valvoline's Racing "Not Street Legal" oil

http://www.valvoline.com/products/co...ng-motor-oil/9

Not carried on shelf. I just have to special order it at Napa, they can normally have it at the store same day if i order in the morning. Cheaper than Amsoil.

dogturd21 05-04-2011 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by BDiggity (Post 3394684)
I have been using Valvoline's Racing "Not Street Legal" oil

http://www.valvoline.com/products/co...ng-motor-oil/9

Not carried on shelf. I just have to special order it at Napa, they can normally have it at the store same day if i order in the morning. Cheaper than Amsoil.

You need to cozy up to a Amsoil dealer that only does it for friends and sells at dealer cost. PM me , I might know one :)

larose481 05-04-2011 09:05 PM

In the related post, Rage poste quote,

Mobil 1 15W50 is API rated SN/SL Is it ok because they say SL or not ok because they also say SN?

Mobil 1 20W50 V Twin is API rated SH, SG/CF, CD. SL is not mentioned.

Mobil 1 4T 10W40 Motorcycle racing oil is API rated SM, SJ, SH/CF, JASO MA. SL is not mentioned.


Never got a real response before it turned into and oil filter debate. I have been running M1 15w50 with no problems so far but haven't been inside to see what it looks like. Getting ready for an oil change and was going to run 15w50 again but what is the latest news???

SkiDoc 05-05-2011 05:31 AM

Without a doubt they have reduced zddp. I was a Mobil 1 15W-50 fan for years, but I switched to the Mobile 1 V-twin oil which seems to be a slam dunk. My advice is that if you want to use synthetic, stick with the known best, Mobile 1 Vtwin, Amsoil Dominator Racing Oil or Royal Purple. I like to always have a reason to spend more. I think there is enough evidence to abandon the 15-50 and go with others.

Knot 4 Me 05-05-2011 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by BDiggity (Post 3394684)
I have been using Valvoline's Racing "Not Street Legal" oil

http://www.valvoline.com/products/co...ng-motor-oil/9

Not carried on shelf. I just have to special order it at Napa, they can normally have it at the store same day if i order in the morning. Cheaper than Amsoil.

I recommend reading the Related FAQ's at the bottom of this link. Does a very nice job of summarizing the current ZDDP level issue in motor oil.

Knot 4 Me 05-05-2011 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by larose481 (Post 3394994)
In the related post, Rage poste quote,

Mobil 1 15W50 is API rated SN/SL Is it ok because they say SL or not ok because they also say SN?

Mobil 1 20W50 V Twin is API rated SH, SG/CF, CD. SL is not mentioned.

Mobil 1 4T 10W40 Motorcycle racing oil is API rated SM, SJ, SH/CF, JASO MA. SL is not mentioned.


Never got a real response before it turned into and oil filter debate. I have been running M1 15w50 with no problems so far but haven't been inside to see what it looks like. Getting ready for an oil change and was going to run 15w50 again but what is the latest news???

If you are running a fairly mild roller cam motor I don't think you should have any concern running Mobil 1 15W50 with its current levels of ZDDP. If you've already purchased some and have concerns running it, just add some Cam Shield or equivalent to raise the level of ZDDP.

Plum_Crazy 05-05-2011 10:31 AM

Is this anything to be concerned about in a stock 496HO?

apollard 05-05-2011 10:36 AM

I was curiuos about this, as the website still has the 1200 PPM showing. So, using htier webpage, I asked if the concentration of zinc had been lowered in the M 1 15W-50. Here is the response I got about an hour ago:


It is still 1200ppm of ZDDP as always.

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Thank you for contacting ExxonMobil.
If you have further questions you may contact 1-800-ASK-MOBIL.
Unfortunately, my local wallyworld doesn't carry 15W-50 now, but it is obviously still good for flat tappets, as everything I've read says 1200 ppm is the level that used to be in oil.

Back4More 05-05-2011 06:08 PM

http://micapeak.com/info/oiled.html

Pismo10 05-05-2011 07:28 PM

That is good to know that the level is still 1200ppm. I will continue to use it if I can find it cheap someplace. This season going RP.

Pismo10 05-05-2011 07:30 PM

I like the Valvoline Not Legal oil as well. Will look into getting that. Would be great for older engines.

larose481 05-05-2011 10:10 PM

I contacted Modil and they also stated that the level is still at 1200 ppm which is fine since you need at least 1000 ppm to sustain life with a flat tapet cam but then I asked the question of what the percentage or ppm of the detergent additive package was whick offsets or dilutes the "z" package and I got silence. Come to find out it is in the neighborhood of 3800 ppm and that take the original below the safe level. I was not happy with the attitude of the customer service either and that goes a long way with me. I spoke with Joe Gibbs today and got real answers and also one of my best friends is the head engine builder at Nortech and that is all they run is the Joe Gibbs HR 15W50 so that is what I am going with.

minxguy 05-06-2011 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by larose481 (Post 3396082)
I contacted Modil and they also stated that the level is still at 1200 ppm which is fine since you need at least 1000 ppm to sustain life with a flat tapet cam but then I asked the question of what the percentage or ppm of the detergent additive package was whick offsets or dilutes the "z" package and I got silence. Come to find out it is in the neighborhood of 3800 ppm and that take the original below the safe level.


? Lost me.

Ken

apollard 05-06-2011 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 3395865)

while the text may be good, be careful using that data. Last update was 1999, and it says the data is for SG/SH oils - we are now on SL/SM oils, many changes since the data was compiled.


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