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fountainfan42 05-09-2011 12:04 PM

400' X 60 ' pole barn ?s
 
looked at a 400' X 60 'X 14' pole barn this weekend and really interested and getting ready to fax over the paperwork this afternoon , if the deal goes thru i will be needing to paint or have her painted . what kinda material ? primer or can i just 1 coat gray colour ? any idea on square foot per 55 gallon of paint ?

Philm 05-09-2011 06:13 PM

That is a serious shop right there.:drink: My guess on paint would be somewhere between a whole lot and a whole hell of a lot.

tinman565 05-09-2011 06:35 PM

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Isnt there a painting forum for buildings somewhere ? Last time I checked...nobody on here was Amish. ;)

fountainfan42 05-09-2011 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Philm (Post 3398792)
That is a serious shop right there.:drink: My guess on paint would be somewhere between a whole lot and a whole hell of a lot.

thanks Phil should work out real nice ,your motor guru Rudy D may move into 6 bays .

Sydwayz 05-09-2011 11:46 PM

Why would you have to have it painted?

Mine came from:
http://www.pioneerpolebuildings.com/

..with this steel; and it doesn't need any additional paint:
http://www.pioneerpolebuildings.com/warranty.html
http://www.pioneerpolebuildings.com/color.html

Steel has a lifetime warranty.

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3399056)
Why would you have to have it painted?

Mine came from:
http://www.pioneerpolebuildings.com/

..with this steel; and it doesn't need any additional paint:
http://www.pioneerpolebuildings.com/warranty.html
http://www.pioneerpolebuildings.com/color.html

Steel has a lifetime warranty.

It is a weathered building with sun fade and some surface rust , i have 3 others Morton & FBI and they all sun fade looks like the gray does it the worst . waiting for an estimate to powerwash & roll the entire bldg .

Fountain4402 05-10-2011 07:17 AM

gallon of paint covers around 400Sq ft. so at least 32 cans of paint. Then the same number if you get primer. I would get more cans of primer than paint so say maybe 40, start out with that then prime the thing, once you get it primed you will know how many cans of paint you need then go buy the paint. Buy to much paint they wont return it.

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by tinman565 (Post 3398812)
Isnt there a painting forum for buildings somewhere ? Last time I checked...nobody on here was Amish. ;)

hey shouldn't you be in Ga looking for that fountain that i almost traded for ?

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3399140)
gallon of paint covers around 400Sq ft. so at least 32 cans of paint. Then the same number if you get primer. I would get more cans of primer than paint so say maybe 40, start out with that then prime the thing, once you get it primed you will know how many cans of paint you need then go buy the paint. Buy to much paint they wont return it.

thanks for the input fountain but you may have hit a wrong button on the calculator, talked to a few painters on the phone yesterday and she's roughly 44,880 sq ft and there talking 225 gallons of primer and 225 gallons of paint .I dont think 32 gallons would do the front wall 400' X 14 ' the price should be interesting over the phone they were both $60K and some change

tinman565 05-10-2011 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3399151)
hey shouldn't you be in Ga looking for that fountain that i almost traded for ?

Lmfao.....now that was funny !!!!!!! Have a great day sir ! :drink:

4bus 05-10-2011 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3399161)
thanks for the input fountain but you may have hit a wrong button on the calculator, talked to a few painters on the phone yesterday and she's roughly 44,880 sq ft and there talking 225 gallons of primer and 225 gallons of paint .I dont think 32 gallons would do the front wall 400' X 14 ' the price should be interesting over the phone they were both $60K and some change

Im confused, based on your dimensions I come up with about 13,000 sq ft as well or 31.7 gallons of paint.

Are you painting the roof as well?

400x14 = 5600 sq ft x 2 = 11200
60x14 = 840 x 2 = 1680

12,880 total square ft

http://www.p1m.com/pcc.htm

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3399175)
Im confused, based on your dimensions I come up with about 13,000 sq ft as well or 31.7 gallons of paint.

Are you painting the roof as well?

400x14 = 5600 sq ft x 2 = 11200
60x14 = 840 x 2 = 1680

12,880 total square ft

http://www.p1m.com/pcc.htm

yes the roof as well and seems 125 sq ft to 200 sq ft per gallon rolling it as i dont want it sprayed .thanks for your input

Fountain4402 05-10-2011 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3399161)
thanks for the input fountain but you may have hit a wrong button on the calculator, talked to a few painters on the phone yesterday and she's roughly 44,880 sq ft and there talking 225 gallons of primer and 225 gallons of paint .I dont think 32 gallons would do the front wall 400' X 14 ' the price should be interesting over the phone they were both $60K and some change

u must be talking roof then because sides are roughly 13k sq ft

Fountain4402 05-10-2011 08:39 AM

With roof I would say about 92-100 cans of paint per one coat. So one coat of primer at 100 cans and two coats of paint at 200 cans equals 300 cans total for rough price of 6 grand just for paint

Fountain4402 05-10-2011 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3399179)
yes the roof as well and seems 125 sq ft to 200 sq ft per gallon rolling it as i dont want it sprayed .thanks for your input

I think you'll see more than 125sq ft out of a gallon of paint

Fountain4402 05-10-2011 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3399175)
Im confused, based on your dimensions I come up with about 13,000 sq ft as well or 31.7 gallons of paint.

Are you painting the roof as well?

400x14 = 5600 sq ft x 2 = 11200
60x14 = 840 x 2 = 1680

12,880 total square ft

http://www.p1m.com/pcc.htm

Yup I come up with the same roof is 400 x 60 is 24,000 for roof plus sides you have a total of 36-37,000 sq ft. Dont know how they are getting 60 plus unless your are talking inside walls as well. But conservatively a gallon of pain will net you 250-300sq ft at this figure you need 123 cans per coat at 20 bucks a peice is 2460. and 5 gallon drums are cheaper per unit. So I wouldnt pay somebody 55 grand to apply 6 grand worth of paint.

HTRDLNCN 05-10-2011 09:06 AM

A bit off the question but is this a building your buying to move to your property or one that comes with land you are buying?
Reason it might be weathered looking is taxes.
Around here many people leave shops looking ragged on outside so they dont get nailed with increased taxes.
Just something to think about..

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN (Post 3399260)
A bit off the question but is this a building your buying to move to your property or one that comes with land you are buying?
Reason it might be weathered looking is taxes.
Around here many people leave shops looking ragged on outside so they dont get nailed with increased taxes.
Just something to think about..

pretty big bldg to move but comes with 33 acres so she's staying right where she's planted , hoping a fresh coat of paint and 35K for blacktop drive & parking wont raise the property tax red flag .lol

Sydwayz 05-10-2011 10:21 AM

I see. I thought you were purchasing a new one.

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3399324)
I see. I thought you were purchasing a new one.

Nope if we were purchasing a new one we'd just stake the 4 corners and say have at it .

ECeptor 05-14-2011 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3399227)
...So I wouldnt pay somebody 55 grand to apply 6 grand worth of paint.

My thoughts exactly. A couple years back I was shocked at what painters were quoting to paint my house. I remember as a kid painting my parents and other relatives houses - it's not a skilled job and doesn't deserve that kind of margin. Yet, these guys wanted to get paid what worked out to $50-100/hour to paint!

I recommend going old school - buy the primer/paint yourself and find some hard working neighbor kids and pay them a decent wage and let them _earn_ some decent money for some honest work. When we were teenagers my brother and my buddies would have jumped at a chance like that.

$55k to paint a barn....that's nuts!

fountainfan42 05-15-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by ECeptor (Post 3403173)
My thoughts exactly. A couple years back I was shocked at what painters were quoting to paint my house. I remember as a kid painting my parents and other relatives houses - it's not a skilled job and doesn't deserve that kind of margin. Yet, these guys wanted to get paid what worked out to $50-100/hour to paint!

I recommend going old school - buy the primer/paint yourself and find some hard working neighbor kids and pay them a decent wage and let them _earn_ some decent money for some honest work. When we were teenagers my brother and my buddies would have jumped at a chance like that.

$55k to paint a barn....that's nuts!

its not NUTZ its just the cost of a professional job ,by professionals, on a huge bldg and i want it rolled & not sprayed.sanded,washed,sealed,primed,painted (a lil more then just a high school kid job) They were set to start yesterday but with all the rain a lil minor setback , thanks for your knowledge and input on the subject Sir.


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