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stopdropanroll 05-24-2011 06:47 AM

288 Sunsation.
 
Well, I think I am over trying to make my Crownline fast. Its just not a wise move to dump anymore money into something thats not going to do what I want, I am just going to have to deal with for another year, and hope for a new boat. My question is what is everyones take on Sunsation boats? Mainly looking at 99-03 288's (closed bow). I like the size and layout, the fact that they all seem to be single power units, and the price seems to be good on clean used ones. How do they compare to say a Baja? I think they are a damn nice looking boat. Is it possible to have a 85-90MPH 288 without spending insane money? I want to find one with a 502 and swap my whipple and other goodies to that motor then build it from there, would 850HP get me to my speed goal?

Knot 4 Me 05-24-2011 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by stopdropanroll (Post 3411181)
Well, I think I am over trying to make my Crownline fast. Its just not a wise move to dump anymore money into something thats not going to do what I want, I am just going to have to deal with for another year, and hope for a new boat. My question is what is everyones take on Sunsation boats? Mainly looking at 99-03 288's (closed bow). I like the size and layout, the fact that they all seem to be single power units, and the price seems to be good on clean used ones. How do they compare to say a Baja? I think they are a damn nice looking boat. Is it possible to have a 85-90MPH 288 without spending insane money? I want to find one with a 502 and swap my whipple and other goodies to that motor then build it from there, would 850HP get me to my speed goal?

Those year 288's are a straight vee with a small pad. They have an insert on the chine that gives the appearance of a step but it is not a step bottom boat. 2005 and up have a true single step and that is the hull you want to go with if you are looking to run speeds over 80. Go to www.sunsationboats.com and you can find others that have done what you are looking to do to get a feel for how much of an investment you would have to make and how those older hulls handle at higher speeds. My experience is you will run into some serious chine walking trying to run that fast and the boat will be a handful. Good luck.

northerndoc 05-24-2011 08:30 AM

Sunsation boats are quality. I would own one right now if they had made the 36' XRT a few years back (enough time for the used market to show up with a few that were depreciated a little). I've met one of the owners at their shop in Algonac (Wayne) and was extremely impressed with their commitment to customer service- even to people who purchase used boats. As Knot said- the newer 288's seem like the way to go.. but any Sunsation is probably going to make you happy. Why not just get it over with and buy a 32 Dom with twin 496's? Turn key boat and will get awful close to 80 if not clear it. Don't even need to monkey around with the Whipples.... <evil grin> :lolhit:

stopdropanroll 05-24-2011 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by northerndoc (Post 3411298)
Sunsation boats are quality. I would own one right now if they had made the 36' XRT a few years back (enough time for the used market to show up with a few that were depreciated a little). I've met one of the owners at their shop in Algonac (Wayne) and was extremely impressed with their commitment to customer service- even to people who purchase used boats. As Knot said- the newer 288's seem like the way to go.. but any Sunsation is probably going to make you happy. Why not just get it over with and buy a 32 Dom with twin 496's? Turn key boat and will get awful close to 80 if not clear it. Don't even need to monkey around with the Whipples.... <evil grin> :lolhit:

Thats always a option! I get mixed opinions from people on twins, some say they are fairly good on fuel vs. a single running hard, and some say stay with a single. I have never owned a twin nor have I owned a offshore boat, I want to buy it right the first time instead of needing to upgrade a few years down the road. Not sure about those 496's, seems to be another mix opinion on those as well. I know what ever I buy I wont be able to leave stock for too long but if it did close 80 stock it might make me happy enough for the water we use locally.

POWERPLAY J 05-24-2011 09:18 AM

Do it right and go 32...

cabin fever 05-24-2011 09:30 AM

32 sonny with HO's and labbed props will run right at, or just over 80mph. Wanna know how I know that?:evilb:

I think you are making a wise decesion. Best thing I ever did was quit trying to make the crownline fast. The velocity is superior to the 225ccr in everyway. I am right at 80mph GPS.


When I was looking my top 3 were:

Nordic (slowest, but coolest looking)

Sunny (couldn't find one in my price range)

Velocity (HP for HP faster then the above) I absolutley love my velocity. Usable cabin, and handles the rough great, and they are a fast hull.

Knot 4 Me 05-24-2011 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3411342)
Do it right and go 32...

+ 1.

soonenough 05-24-2011 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by cabin fever (Post 3411352)
32 sonny with HO's and labbed props will run right at, or just over 80mph. Wanna know how I know that?:evilb:.

HAHA! Yes it will... My 01 32 with HO's saw a best of 84 all stock with labbed props. The boat was an absolute blast to drive!

Dave M 05-24-2011 11:36 AM

288's are nice but if speed is your goal, I'd look elsewhere. 850 HP?, I hope you have a few spare ODs. 85-90 MPH in a single without reliability issues, good luck!

My choices in that size range are....
Superboat, Kryptonite, Activator, Velocity, 29 Fountain

4bus 05-24-2011 11:55 AM

Pros-Sleek lines, Good quality, light layup, fairly fast per HP, you could tow it with a mid size SUV

Cons- Small and shallow, don't try to convince others you have a near 29' boat when it is in the water...looks like a 25. Boat flies through the air with anything more than 1 footers. It takes it well, but for some the rough water ride will have them scared $hittless (passengers)

A good freind of mine had one of the first and used to tie up to me when I owned a 29 outlaw. My boat dwarfed his. However he had a single 454 mag mpi with a whipple, ran mid 80's. My 29 with twin 454 mpi's was 15 mph slower and used much more fuel.

There is a 32 dom on our lake with twin 500 efi's that runs 90. I agree with the others, the Doms seem to be close in price and you will have a twin engine boat that will handle bigger water. But then you could just go with a 31 sonic and have a full head and a/c......it never ends :)

Whatever you do choose wisely, performance boats are not the easiest to move right now. Banks are tight, and 80 percent of the guys that would want to buy a 288 from you when you are done with it don't have their finances in order.

cabin fever 05-24-2011 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by soonenough (Post 3411436)
HAHA! Yes it will... My 01 32 with HO's saw a best of 84 all stock with labbed props. The boat was an absolute blast to drive!

I still have bruise on my arm, from my wife, knocking the chit outta me when I was trying to keep up!

stopdropanroll 05-24-2011 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3411468)
Pros-Sleek lines, Good quality, light layup, fairly fast per HP, you could tow it with a mid size SUV

Cons- Small and shallow, don't try to convince others you have a near 29' boat when it is in the water...looks like a 25. Boat flies through the air with anything more than 1 footers. It takes it well, but for some the rough water ride will have them scared $hittless (passengers)

A good freind of mine had one of the first and used to tie up to me when I owned a 29 outlaw. My boat dwarfed his. However he had a single 454 mag mpi with a whipple, ran mid 80's. My 29 with twin 454 mpi's was 15 mph slower and used much more fuel.

There is a 32 dom on our lake with twin 500 efi's that runs 90. I agree with the others, the Doms seem to be close in price and you will have a twin engine boat that will handle bigger water. But then you could just go with a 31 sonic and have a full head and a/c......it never ends :)

Whatever you do choose wisely, performance boats are not the easiest to move right now. Banks are tight, and 80 percent of the guys that would want to buy a 288 from you when you are done with it don't have their finances in order.

Thank you, that was great advise. I want something that makes moma a little more at ease in the heavier chop. As of now with a 18 degree deadrise its hell of a ride when you hit that un-suspecting wake @ 68 and I think she is a tad scared to go out unless we are just putting around.

So how much water will that 32 DOM draft? I plan on picking up a 1 ton truck before I buy a bigger boat, and since people seem to be giving away 8.1 Chevy duallys thats the truck I am planning on buying, so I won't have a issue towing. I am also guessing twins are a bit better at the dock, thats a big boat when its just Moma and I, so thats also something I need to consider. We run on typical WI lakes, I just don't want to buy something that limits my use of the boat.

northerndoc 05-24-2011 02:50 PM

My 35' Ex only draws 3ft on average, a 32 Dom should be about the same. Draft isn't usually the issue with these boats, it's finding a ramp that has facilities that will accommodate a 50+ft long rig. I don't know what lakes you boat on now, but that is a significant issue that you will have to consider prior to purchase- because it will come into play. The twins are great at the dock once you get used to them- especially in a non-staggered boat like the Dom. Being longer, the wind can be a bear when it starts blowing around the dock, but it's typically just the wife and I in our Ex and we do just fine. She backs the trailer in and I load the boat when it's time to pull out. We love the boat, but recognize it is a big-water boat and we use it accordingly. That's why I bought my little Malibu- it's older, but was cheap and is great when we just want to go mess around on the small lakes or ski. Different tools for different jobs! I imagine if you get the 32 you'll love it, but it's a significant step from what you have and it's important to consider all the variables before you get into it.

LAriverratt 05-24-2011 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by stopdropanroll (Post 3411493)
Thank you, that was great advise. I want something that makes moma a little more at ease in the heavier chop. As of now with a 18 degree deadrise its hell of a ride when you hit that un-suspecting wake @ 68 and I think she is a tad scared to go out unless we are just putting around.

So how much water will that 32 DOM draft? I plan on picking up a 1 ton truck before I buy a bigger boat, and since people seem to be giving away 8.1 Chevy duallys thats the truck I am planning on buying, so I won't have a issue towing. I am also guessing twins are a bit better at the dock, thats a big boat when its just Moma and I, so thats also something I need to consider. We run on typical WI lakes, I just don't want to buy something that limits my use of the boat.

take the plung and get the 32....I love mine!!!!:evilb::coolcowboy: The girlfriend and I go out alot by ourselves with no issues docking (other than me getting use to the twin I/O :lolhit: this is my first power boat) pulled it with a F-250 at first and have a dodge dually now. the ford was fine but the dually is much better pulling AND on fuel:drink:

stopdropanroll 05-24-2011 03:50 PM

I know there is 28-32' running around the lakes I use and also have seen a 42' Sonic a time or two last summer. Madison Wi is pretty heavy with boating and most launches seem to be pretty nice, a few kinda sketchy, but mostly nice with deep docks. I need to find someone local with a 30+ twin and see if its really what I want to do.

07DominatorSS 05-24-2011 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by stopdropanroll (Post 3411314)
Thats always a option! I get mixed opinions from people on twins, some say they are fairly good on fuel vs. a single running hard, and some say stay with a single. I have never owned a twin nor have I owned a offshore boat, I want to buy it right the first time instead of needing to upgrade a few years down the road. Not sure about those 496's, seems to be another mix opinion on those as well. I know what ever I buy I wont be able to leave stock for too long but if it did close 80 stock it might make me happy enough for the water we use locally.

If you don't want to have to upgrade in a few years, go with the 32. You'll be much happier. Fuel wise, its not much worse than a single, do power to weight ratio. A newer 32, 2006 and up, with ho's will run low 80's all day long. Not too mention the benefits of a full head, much more cabin room, handling, handling around docks etc.....

4bus 05-24-2011 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by 07DominatorSS (Post 3411735)
If you don't want to have to upgrade in a few years, go with the 32. You'll be much happier. Fuel wise, its not much worse than a single, do power to weight ratio. A newer 32, 2006 and up, with ho's will run low 80's all day long. Not too mention the benefits of a full head, much more cabin room, handling, handling around docks etc.....

I don't think he is shopping in the SS price range, no full head in the standard dominator

soonenough 05-24-2011 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by cabin fever (Post 3411481)
I still have bruise on my arm, from my wife, knocking the chit outta me when I was trying to keep up!

Haha! I think I will be the one with the bruised arm this year!:lolhit:


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