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tnc110 08-30-2011 09:22 PM

supercharger efficiency
 
Looking into adding a supercharger to a 454 mag carb engine. How much is the sc going to effect fuel mileage at cruising speed and at wot? I don't mind if it sucks it down at wot, but would like to retain some efficiency at cruising speed....

goebel1 08-30-2011 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by tnc110 (Post 3492415)
Looking into adding a supercharger to a 454 mag carb engine. How much is the sc going to effect fuel mileage at cruising speed and at wot? I don't mind if it sucks it down at wot, but would like to retain some efficiency at cruising speed....

I find its better milage with the super charge it allows you to run more pitch so your cruse improves

FIXX 08-30-2011 11:19 PM

fixx
 
or you can run a procharger which boost dont come it until 3300 ish rpm's,,will also save your drive..

FogduckerIII 08-31-2011 09:08 AM

I put a Procharger on my 454Mag MPI and my fuel economy has actually IMPROVED......except when she goes into boost.....:eek:

articfriends 08-31-2011 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by FogduckerIII (Post 3492784)
I put a Procharger on my 454Mag MPI and my fuel economy has actually IMPROVED......except when she goes into boost.....:eek:

I find this to be true too, my boat gets about 3-3.5 mpg cruising w/ blown 540 compared to 2 -2.5 mpg stock 502, Smitty

offthefront 08-31-2011 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3493418)
I find this to be true too, my boat gets about 3-3.5 mpg cruising w/ blown 540 compared to 2 -2.5 mpg stock 502, Smitty

Hot Damn !!! Can't wait .... 10 MPG !!!!!!

tnc110 08-31-2011 09:46 PM

WOW all sounds good. So...keeping budget in mind...what is the best settup for me.

Jeff P31 08-31-2011 10:17 PM

No such thing as a budget when it comes to superchargers ! Just add it all up and x by 2 might put you close .

tnc110 09-01-2011 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff P31 (Post 3493508)
No such thing as a budget when it comes to superchargers ! Just add it all up and x by 2 might put you close .

Ouch! So plan on 10k huh? Sounds like buying a Nitrous system...sounds cheap until you add all the things you want/need above the initial kit...

JRider 09-02-2011 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff P31 (Post 3493508)
No such thing as a budget when it comes to superchargers ! Just add it all up and x by 2 might put you close .

I am with you there. If you have a top mount charger add in the price of glass work and paint. Oh, and cockpit cover. Oh yeah mooring cover. I spent way more than I had budgeted for my install.

HTRDLNCN 09-02-2011 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by tnc110 (Post 3494319)
Ouch! So plan on 10k huh? Sounds like buying a Nitrous system...sounds cheap until you add all the things you want/need above the initial kit...

or until you get hooked on running it and are filling the bottle every week!

nxfirebird 09-02-2011 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by tnc110 (Post 3494319)
Ouch! So plan on 10k huh? Sounds like buying a Nitrous system...sounds cheap until you add all the things you want/need above the initial kit...


i'm used to be a nitrous heads up racer, and i wouldn't put nitrous on my boat for anything.

mcollinstn 09-13-2011 09:12 AM

Physics says that a motor can't be more economical at a given rpm if it is dragging along the parasitic load of a blower. You can't defy physics.

BUT since the blower allows a higher pitch, your cruise rpm drops, thus changing the parameters and giving the result the above guys are talking about.


Here's how it works.....

Right now, you run let's say a 24 pitch prop. Let's say your most economical cruise rpm "for the motor" will be around 2400 rpm due to the torque curve of your motor. Your hull, though, at that rpm isn't fully on top of the water and running freely at that rpm. Your hull's best cruise speed let's say is 36 mph, yet it takes 3000 rpm to get there. So you end up cruising at 3000 rpm all the time, giving up the sweet spot in the torque curve at light throttle openings.

With the blower, let's say you now run a 28" prop. Now you run 36 mph at your 2400 rpm. Even with the parasitic losses incurred by driving the blower, you get to run at your motor's most economical rpm, and your hulls sweet spot at the same time.

Bottom line is that if you ran that same 28" prop without the blower, and ran it at the same 2400 rpm, you would get slightly better economy than the same setup with the blower, but the boat would be a pig, would be hard to get on plane, and would not accelerate for squat.


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