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mobil or amsoil
trying to figure out wich oil is better
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mobil is a automotive emission legal oil , you can get amsoil in a off road type of oil which does not have to meet the EPA bullchit
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Royal Purple. <g>
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I ran Mobil 1 Vtwin for the last 6 years. Last oil change I ran Amsoil Racing 20w-50. Both kept oil pressure well. The Amsoil is red out of the bottle, then turned brown with use and was definitely less viscous than the Mobil at ambient temp. I noticed when changing my leaking KE valve cover bases that the amsoil didn't seem to create that hard to remove film on parts that the Mobil created. This is completely unscientific observation, but I think I'm going back to the Mobil 1 vtwin next year. I just put Valvoline racing to winter it.
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I use the 15/40 Amsoil marine/diesel oil. I also use the AE filters, they come in a few sizes. This year I used the big one, it holds 2 quarts. Worked great and added oil to the sytem.
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Originally Posted by SkiDoc
(Post 3516402)
I ran Mobil 1 Vtwin for the last 6 years. Last oil change I ran Amsoil Racing 20w-50. Both kept oil pressure well. The Amsoil is red out of the bottle, then turned brown with use and was definitely less viscous than the Mobil at ambient temp. I noticed when changing my leaking KE valve cover bases that the amsoil didn't seem to create that hard to remove film on parts that the Mobil created. This is completely unscientific observation, but I think I'm going back to the Mobil 1 vtwin next year. I just put Valvoline racing to winter it.
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just want to mention that amsoil has v-twin oil 20w50 also....
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i run amsoil and i like it
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amsoil contains zinc which the epa doesnt want?
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Originally Posted by weldcrane
(Post 3516957)
amsoil contains zinc which the epa doesnt want?
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Originally Posted by weldcrane
(Post 3516092)
trying to figure out wich oil is better
www.lubedealer.com/s&wsynthetics |
Originally Posted by jeffswav
(Post 3516812)
I use the 15/40 Amsoil marine/diesel oil.
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Amsoil in everthing
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Yea I am a dealer also, they make a oil or lube for almost anything......
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they have 20w50 z rod oil now with high zinc. Ive always used there 15w40 diesel oil on stock motors and all my customers boats. heck i even use there 10w30 small engine oil in my garden tractor and it starts in 40 below canadian weather
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i think amsoil has a new one out,replacing the 3000 series...havent seen it yet but its supposed to be 15w50...maybe the dealers can chime in...
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I used mobil one v twin since my rebuilds in 08, i did them this year as my alum heads finally gave way. one cam had grooves in the lobe, im not saying this is from the mobil one as when the cams were bought in 07 crane had some cams that werent hardened enough. I just switched to amsoli v twin oil which according to all tests that i read surpassed mobil 1 v twin in every catagory including amount of zinc. have a few hours on it with the amsoil and really like the sound and oil pressure readings, if you close your eyes and just listen to the engines they sound smooth..ohh and wix/napa filters...just fyi i also found out that the standard 1060 filter from napa only flows 9 gallons per hour and the 1060R flows 28 gallons per hour.
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I'm as guilty of this as anyone- I use Amsoil religiously- but can we all agree that a high quality synthetic has advantages over a standard oil, and which ever one you use is going to protect your engine better. Beyond that, what's the measurable benefit even if say Amsoil is better than Mobil 1- my rings are gonna last 10 more hours?
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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
(Post 3517673)
I used mobil one v twin since my rebuilds in 08, i did them this year as my alum heads finally gave way. one cam had grooves in the lobe, im not saying this is from the mobil one as when the cams were bought in 07 crane had some cams that werent hardened enough. I just switched to amsoli v twin oil which according to all tests that i read surpassed mobil 1 v twin in every catagory including amount of zinc. have a few hours on it with the amsoil and really like the sound and oil pressure readings, if you close your eyes and just listen to the engines they sound smooth..ohh and wix/napa filters...just fyi i also found out that the standard 1060 filter from napa only flows 9 gallons per hour and the 1060R flows 28 gallons per hour.
Is one gravel strainer compared to the other? Jeff |
Originally Posted by pqjack
(Post 3517669)
i think amsoil has a new one out,replacing the 3000 series...havent seen it yet but its supposed to be 15w50...maybe the dealers can chime in...
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Originally Posted by ctuck0659
(Post 3517687)
I'm as guilty of this as anyone- I use Amsoil religiously- but can we all agree that a high quality synthetic has advantages over a standard oil, and which ever one you use is going to protect your engine better. Beyond that, what's the measurable benefit even if say Amsoil is better than Mobil 1- my rings are gonna last 10 more hours?
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15/40 in a gas motor?
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Originally Posted by hallj
(Post 3518126)
How does the filtration efficiency compare between the two filters?
Is one gravel strainer compared to the other? Jeff |
Originally Posted by chuckels
(Post 3518132)
amsoil 15/50 dominator , its what i use
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I wouldn't recommend running a motorcycle oil in your boat engine. Motor cycle oils have less friction modifiers for better clutch performance. Amsoil makes three different types of high Zinc content oil for harder working engines. The reason for the low Zinc in current automotive oils is that the Zinc causes the catalytic convertors to deteriorate. The Amsoil 15w40 Marine / Diesel oil is the lowest cost high zinc oil, then you have the Z-Rod famiy and then the Dominator racing oil. When choosing an oil please look for SAE standardized testing to compare them. I have never seen a test yet that showed that any brand was better then Amsoil, and I have looked. On another note WIX R series filters are 60 micron filters or should I say strainers. If you are looking for the best you can get and have room for a taller filter check out the Amsoil EA076, it's almost 2 quarts. My oil is so clean after 2 seasons that I hate to through it away.
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Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin
(Post 3520119)
I wouldn't recommend running a motorcycle oil in your boat engine. Motor cycle oils have less friction modifiers for better clutch performance. Amsoil makes three different types of high Zinc content oil for harder working engines. The reason for the low Zinc in current automotive oils is that the Zinc causes the catalytic convertors to deteriorate. The Amsoil 15w40 Marine / Diesel oil is the lowest cost high zinc oil, then you have the Z-Rod famiy and then the Dominator racing oil. When choosing an oil please look for SAE standardized testing to compare them. I have never seen a test yet that showed that any brand was better then Amsoil, and I have looked. On another note WIX R series filters are 60 micron filters or should I say strainers. If you are looking for the best you can get and have room for a taller filter check out the Amsoil EA076, it's almost 2 quarts. My oil is so clean after 2 seasons that I hate to through it away.
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I'm a Amsoil dealer too.
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Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin
(Post 3520119)
I wouldn't recommend running a motorcycle oil in your boat engine. Motor cycle oils have less friction modifiers for better clutch performance. Amsoil makes three different types of high Zinc content oil for harder working engines. The reason for the low Zinc in current automotive oils is that the Zinc causes the catalytic convertors to deteriorate. The Amsoil 15w40 Marine / Diesel oil is the lowest cost high zinc oil, then you have the Z-Rod famiy and then the Dominator racing oil. When choosing an oil please look for SAE standardized testing to compare them. I have never seen a test yet that showed that any brand was better then Amsoil, and I have looked. On another note WIX R series filters are 60 micron filters or should I say strainers. If you are looking for the best you can get and have room for a taller filter check out the Amsoil EA076, it's almost 2 quarts. My oil is so clean after 2 seasons that I hate to through it away.
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Originally Posted by weldcrane
(Post 3518946)
15/40 in a gas motor?
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Originally Posted by weldcrane
(Post 3518946)
15/40 in a gas motor?
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didnt know if there were different additives for diesel as for gas
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Originally Posted by weldcrane
(Post 3521490)
didnt know if there were different additives for diesel as for gas
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I ran the Amsoil 15W40 Marine/Diesel oil in a 454 for a couple of seasons. Great oil.
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Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin
(Post 3520119)
I wouldn't recommend running a motorcycle oil in your boat engine. Motor cycle oils have less friction modifiers for better clutch performance.
So, what. Does your boat engine have a wet clutch? Amsoil makes three different types of high Zinc content oil for harder working engines. The reason for the low Zinc in current automotive oils is that the Zinc causes the catalytic convertors to deteriorate. Don't believe everything you read. I have been using motorcycle oils in all my vechiles for 20+ years and have never replaced a cat. Last car had 257K on the stock exhaust when I sold it. |
amsoil dominator
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Any info on Amsoil Z-Rod 20-50 (ZRFQT)? Supposed to have more anti-oxident and corrosion inhibitors. I was thinking of changing from Amsoil AROQT.
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Originally Posted by sleek1
(Post 3581536)
Any info on Amsoil Z-Rod 20-50 (ZRFQT)? Supposed to have more anti-oxident and corrosion inhibitors. I was thinking of changing from Amsoil AROQT.
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2212.pdf http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2883.pdf |
Mobil 1 All the way-------- Used it in most of my boats over the years and Never had a failure.... All my cars also! Easy to get !Even my 34 scarab with nitrous and still never had a failure.
Jim |
Amsoil 15/50 Dominator Racing Oil. Not cheap,but nothing better.
And I still change it every 15 hours. |
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