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weldcrane 09-29-2011 06:48 PM

mobil or amsoil
 
trying to figure out wich oil is better

mikes280 09-29-2011 06:54 PM

mobil is a automotive emission legal oil , you can get amsoil in a off road type of oil which does not have to meet the EPA bullchit

Padraig 09-29-2011 09:18 PM

Royal Purple. <g>

SkiDoc 09-30-2011 05:13 AM

I ran Mobil 1 Vtwin for the last 6 years. Last oil change I ran Amsoil Racing 20w-50. Both kept oil pressure well. The Amsoil is red out of the bottle, then turned brown with use and was definitely less viscous than the Mobil at ambient temp. I noticed when changing my leaking KE valve cover bases that the amsoil didn't seem to create that hard to remove film on parts that the Mobil created. This is completely unscientific observation, but I think I'm going back to the Mobil 1 vtwin next year. I just put Valvoline racing to winter it.

jeffswav 09-30-2011 03:09 PM

I use the 15/40 Amsoil marine/diesel oil. I also use the AE filters, they come in a few sizes. This year I used the big one, it holds 2 quarts. Worked great and added oil to the sytem.

mikes280 09-30-2011 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by SkiDoc (Post 3516402)
I ran Mobil 1 Vtwin for the last 6 years. Last oil change I ran Amsoil Racing 20w-50. Both kept oil pressure well. The Amsoil is red out of the bottle, then turned brown with use and was definitely less viscous than the Mobil at ambient temp. I noticed when changing my leaking KE valve cover bases that the amsoil didn't seem to create that hard to remove film on parts that the Mobil created. This is completely unscientific observation, but I think I'm going back to the Mobil 1 vtwin next year. I just put Valvoline racing to winter it.

the Vtwin oil is good oil , a lot better then the standard Mobil 1 you buy for a street car . Keep in mind Epa required all the street legal oil to have no Zinc and many more things that off road oil can still have.

pqjack 09-30-2011 05:47 PM

just want to mention that amsoil has v-twin oil 20w50 also....

mikes280 09-30-2011 05:54 PM

i run amsoil and i like it

weldcrane 09-30-2011 06:41 PM

amsoil contains zinc which the epa doesnt want?

scottw 09-30-2011 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by weldcrane (Post 3516957)
amsoil contains zinc which the epa doesnt want?

Zinc is good for wear!

scottw 09-30-2011 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by weldcrane (Post 3516092)
trying to figure out wich oil is better

Let me know if you choose Amsoil. Im a independent dealer.

www.lubedealer.com/s&wsynthetics

OldSchool 09-30-2011 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by jeffswav (Post 3516812)
I use the 15/40 Amsoil marine/diesel oil.

Me too...for the last 5 years. Nothing has broke, so I'm staying with it!!!!:drink::evilb:

firehawkcat 09-30-2011 09:00 PM

Amsoil in everthing

jeffswav 09-30-2011 10:13 PM

Yea I am a dealer also, they make a oil or lube for almost anything......

zeke 10-01-2011 08:21 PM

they have 20w50 z rod oil now with high zinc. Ive always used there 15w40 diesel oil on stock motors and all my customers boats. heck i even use there 10w30 small engine oil in my garden tractor and it starts in 40 below canadian weather

pqjack 10-02-2011 07:08 AM

i think amsoil has a new one out,replacing the 3000 series...havent seen it yet but its supposed to be 15w50...maybe the dealers can chime in...

offshoredrillin 10-02-2011 07:19 AM

I used mobil one v twin since my rebuilds in 08, i did them this year as my alum heads finally gave way. one cam had grooves in the lobe, im not saying this is from the mobil one as when the cams were bought in 07 crane had some cams that werent hardened enough. I just switched to amsoli v twin oil which according to all tests that i read surpassed mobil 1 v twin in every catagory including amount of zinc. have a few hours on it with the amsoil and really like the sound and oil pressure readings, if you close your eyes and just listen to the engines they sound smooth..ohh and wix/napa filters...just fyi i also found out that the standard 1060 filter from napa only flows 9 gallons per hour and the 1060R flows 28 gallons per hour.

ctuck0659 10-02-2011 07:56 AM

I'm as guilty of this as anyone- I use Amsoil religiously- but can we all agree that a high quality synthetic has advantages over a standard oil, and which ever one you use is going to protect your engine better. Beyond that, what's the measurable benefit even if say Amsoil is better than Mobil 1- my rings are gonna last 10 more hours?

hallj 10-02-2011 08:15 PM

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...t_Engines.aspx

Jeff

hallj 10-02-2011 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3517673)
I used mobil one v twin since my rebuilds in 08, i did them this year as my alum heads finally gave way. one cam had grooves in the lobe, im not saying this is from the mobil one as when the cams were bought in 07 crane had some cams that werent hardened enough. I just switched to amsoli v twin oil which according to all tests that i read surpassed mobil 1 v twin in every catagory including amount of zinc. have a few hours on it with the amsoil and really like the sound and oil pressure readings, if you close your eyes and just listen to the engines they sound smooth..ohh and wix/napa filters...just fyi i also found out that the standard 1060 filter from napa only flows 9 gallons per hour and the 1060R flows 28 gallons per hour.

How does the filtration efficiency compare between the two filters?

Is one gravel strainer compared to the other?

Jeff

chuckels 10-02-2011 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by pqjack (Post 3517669)
i think amsoil has a new one out,replacing the 3000 series...havent seen it yet but its supposed to be 15w50...maybe the dealers can chime in...

amsoil 15/50 dominator , its what i use

mikes280 10-02-2011 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by ctuck0659 (Post 3517687)
I'm as guilty of this as anyone- I use Amsoil religiously- but can we all agree that a high quality synthetic has advantages over a standard oil, and which ever one you use is going to protect your engine better. Beyond that, what's the measurable benefit even if say Amsoil is better than Mobil 1- my rings are gonna last 10 more hours?

i can agree to that but if the oil is a street legal oil it will not have some additives in it that oil a few years ago did have. This is the reason to go with a off road type of oil that does not need to meet the EPA regulations to be street legal.

weldcrane 10-03-2011 07:47 PM

15/40 in a gas motor?

offshoredrillin 10-04-2011 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by hallj (Post 3518126)
How does the filtration efficiency compare between the two filters?

Is one gravel strainer compared to the other?

Jeff

filtration was great on both, the flow rate is the size of the holes for flow, much bigger on the R. I change oil every 25 hours, so far I am liking the Amsoil too.

Eliminator28 10-04-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by chuckels (Post 3518132)
amsoil 15/50 dominator , its what i use

X2, With Ao filters..

ThisIsLivin 10-05-2011 07:48 AM

I wouldn't recommend running a motorcycle oil in your boat engine. Motor cycle oils have less friction modifiers for better clutch performance. Amsoil makes three different types of high Zinc content oil for harder working engines. The reason for the low Zinc in current automotive oils is that the Zinc causes the catalytic convertors to deteriorate. The Amsoil 15w40 Marine / Diesel oil is the lowest cost high zinc oil, then you have the Z-Rod famiy and then the Dominator racing oil. When choosing an oil please look for SAE standardized testing to compare them. I have never seen a test yet that showed that any brand was better then Amsoil, and I have looked. On another note WIX R series filters are 60 micron filters or should I say strainers. If you are looking for the best you can get and have room for a taller filter check out the Amsoil EA076, it's almost 2 quarts. My oil is so clean after 2 seasons that I hate to through it away.

pqjack 10-05-2011 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin (Post 3520119)
I wouldn't recommend running a motorcycle oil in your boat engine. Motor cycle oils have less friction modifiers for better clutch performance. Amsoil makes three different types of high Zinc content oil for harder working engines. The reason for the low Zinc in current automotive oils is that the Zinc causes the catalytic convertors to deteriorate. The Amsoil 15w40 Marine / Diesel oil is the lowest cost high zinc oil, then you have the Z-Rod famiy and then the Dominator racing oil. When choosing an oil please look for SAE standardized testing to compare them. I have never seen a test yet that showed that any brand was better then Amsoil, and I have looked. On another note WIX R series filters are 60 micron filters or should I say strainers. If you are looking for the best you can get and have room for a taller filter check out the Amsoil EA076, it's almost 2 quarts. My oil is so clean after 2 seasons that I hate to through it away.

v-twin oil is blended for harleys...the motor oil doesnt go in the clutch,and it is high in zinc (and vitamins)

carter38 10-06-2011 10:17 AM

I'm a Amsoil dealer too.

jeffswav 10-06-2011 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin (Post 3520119)
I wouldn't recommend running a motorcycle oil in your boat engine. Motor cycle oils have less friction modifiers for better clutch performance. Amsoil makes three different types of high Zinc content oil for harder working engines. The reason for the low Zinc in current automotive oils is that the Zinc causes the catalytic convertors to deteriorate. The Amsoil 15w40 Marine / Diesel oil is the lowest cost high zinc oil, then you have the Z-Rod famiy and then the Dominator racing oil. When choosing an oil please look for SAE standardized testing to compare them. I have never seen a test yet that showed that any brand was better then Amsoil, and I have looked. On another note WIX R series filters are 60 micron filters or should I say strainers. If you are looking for the best you can get and have room for a taller filter check out the Amsoil EA076, it's almost 2 quarts. My oil is so clean after 2 seasons that I hate to through it away.

The 2 quart filter works great my oil still looks like new, put about 40+ hrs on it so far. I will do the same this fall when I winterize.

jeffswav 10-06-2011 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by weldcrane (Post 3518946)
15/40 in a gas motor?

Works great, been running it for several years. I like it better than the 10/40 Marine oil.

07DominatorSS 10-06-2011 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by weldcrane (Post 3518946)
15/40 in a gas motor?

Yeah, why not? You can use any diesel oil in a gas motor, just not any gasoline oil in a diesel.

weldcrane 10-06-2011 07:19 PM

didnt know if there were different additives for diesel as for gas

07DominatorSS 10-06-2011 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by weldcrane (Post 3521490)
didnt know if there were different additives for diesel as for gas

Well, there is different additives for diesel, to control the soot and byproducts of combustion, but they are overkill for a gas engine. In a gas application, its just gonna keep that engine that much cleaner.

Knot 4 Me 10-07-2011 08:07 AM

I ran the Amsoil 15W40 Marine/Diesel oil in a 454 for a couple of seasons. Great oil.

minxguy 10-13-2011 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin (Post 3520119)
I wouldn't recommend running a motorcycle oil in your boat engine. Motor cycle oils have less friction modifiers for better clutch performance.

So, what. Does your boat engine have a wet clutch?






Amsoil makes three different types of high Zinc content oil for harder working engines. The reason for the low Zinc in current automotive oils is that the Zinc causes the catalytic convertors to deteriorate.

Don't believe everything you read. I have been using motorcycle oils in all my vechiles for 20+ years and have never replaced a cat. Last car had 257K on the stock exhaust when I sold it.


Ken

innerrage 10-13-2011 06:40 AM

amsoil dominator

sleek1 12-29-2011 10:49 AM

Any info on Amsoil Z-Rod 20-50 (ZRFQT)? Supposed to have more anti-oxident and corrosion inhibitors. I was thinking of changing from Amsoil AROQT.

07DominatorSS 12-29-2011 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by sleek1 (Post 3581536)
Any info on Amsoil Z-Rod 20-50 (ZRFQT)? Supposed to have more anti-oxident and corrosion inhibitors. I was thinking of changing from Amsoil AROQT.

They are both similar products with the major difference being TBN. The ARO is stronger in that department. But here are links to both spec sheets for you.

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2212.pdf

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2883.pdf

cigboat1 12-29-2011 08:08 PM

Mobil 1 All the way-------- Used it in most of my boats over the years and Never had a failure.... All my cars also! Easy to get !Even my 34 scarab with nitrous and still never had a failure.


Jim

BONDO10 12-30-2011 06:25 AM

Amsoil 15/50 Dominator Racing Oil. Not cheap,but nothing better.
And I still change it every 15 hours.


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