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i can understand the question about the reliefs at the oil holes but i have seen that work 8 ways from sunday on 50 different motors and i have never seen it as an issue... and realistically why would it be ? all it does is reduce the surface area a bit right there but in the real world, if the cleareances are correct and the pressure is correct then the bearing doesn't even notice there is a low spot there because it is hydraulically solid. i have seen ford V-8s with a fully radius grove there run 24 hrs at 7500 rpm and the bearings come out perfect. so in a word , no... i don't think the oil reliefs are an issue. and if gellner built those motors, he is clearly a knowledgeable guy and wouldn't do something fundementally wrong . i still say that you need to check the clearences mechanically with a dial bore gage and micrometer. get some real answers and data and then call us back.
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Does the oil smell burnt?
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Seeing the cam and lifters it looks like there was a lack of a proper lubrication boundary/layer of oil, like the oil got real hot or pressure/flow at the actual mains/rods and cams was inadequate. As far as the oil reliefs, they look goofy, I wouldn't have ground them that way but its possible your engine builder has done it that way for years on other engines and it has worked. There wasn't a sale on recycled/reclaimed oil at advance auto was there??? (just kidding). I built a aluminum rodded motor for a jet boat I used to have years ago with no oil cooler and when my oil pressure dropped to 3 psi hot at idle and 20 lbs at wot brecause of the con rods growing from heat (didn't know that at the time I did it)my bearings and crank looked similar or worse in 20 hours, yours looks simila. What kind of oil pressure did you have hot at idle?? did you have a oil temp gauge, I would think your oil was 300+ degreees and not able to hardly carry any pressure hot if I was guessing.
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Might want to send the oil out and have it tested.
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Were they built by Gellner Marine?
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Originally Posted by GPM
(Post 3623210)
Might want to send the oil out and have it tested.
no analysis required. just reasonable eyesight |
Originally Posted by articfriends
(Post 3623209)
Seeing the cam and lifters it looks like there was a lack of a proper lubrication boundary/layer of oil, like the oil got real hot or pressure/flow at the actual mains/rods and cams was inadequate. As far as the oil reliefs, they look goofy, I wouldn't have ground them that way but its possible your engine builder has done it that way for years on other engines and it has worked. There wasn't a sale on recycled/reclaimed oil at advance auto was there??? (just kidding). I built a aluminum rodded motor for a jet boat I used to have years ago with no oil cooler and when my oil pressure dropped to 3 psi hot at idle and 20 lbs at wot brecause of the con rods growing from heat (didn't know that at the time I did it)my bearings and crank looked similar or worse in 20 hours, yours looks simila. What kind of oil pressure did you have hot at idle?? did you have a oil temp gauge, I would think your oil was 300+ degreees and not able to hardly carry any pressure hot if I was guessing.
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Since I have a motor built by the same company (Im pretty sure) im going to keep a eye on this thread. Mine was done around the same time if I remember correctly.
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Originally Posted by stevesxm
(Post 3623256)
you can send the oil to your bookie and he can tell you that its full of bronze, copper , steel, cast iron, aluminum and various other trace metals.
no analysis required. just reasonable eyesight |
i dont know what brand of parts were used,but i do know that most of the time,YOU GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR.i thihk if you check rod side clearance,you wont like what you find.
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