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dominics79 03-27-2012 12:38 PM

496 running warm
 
Recently had a marina change the inpeller and houseing on my 2005 496 mag because it would warm up at idle and then cool back down as soon as you gave it rpm's. now it warms up after you slow down from about 4000 rpm but runs at normal temp during idle. Any ideas

Knot 4 Me 03-27-2012 02:21 PM

Define "warm". I would start at backflushing the system to make sure they got out all the old chunks of impeller.

Jeff P31 03-27-2012 02:26 PM

Clean out the old impeller peaces from the heat exchanger.

Raylar 03-27-2012 11:45 PM

On the 496's the larger broken rubber pieces of impellor if they get into the system after the raw water pump generally are caught in the inlet side of the oil cooler before the heat exchanger. Remove the hose on the inlet side of the cooler closest to the back of the engine and look in and you'll prbably find the larger pieces of impellor there.
Check you raw water pump pressures at higher rpms and make sure they are within the Mercury specs. If they are low for whatever reason the engine will not cool as well as it should and this will show up after running at higher rpms and then dropping to an idle.

As some one else said previously, what are the temps you are expierencing?

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

Sydwayz 03-28-2012 11:42 AM

I've seen more than one Baja have issues with that stupid T-fitting they put in for the fresh water flush. It get's all gummed up and the check-ball spring portion of it sticks and closes off the water flow. All you need is a T in the system; not that damn check balll spring loaded piece of chit.

Also, check your heat exchanger for clogs.
And, you have to change the antifreeze. It's only good for 5-6 years, max. It silts up and does not flow as well.

TWIN-SPINS 03-28-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3650962)
I've seen more than one Baja have issues with that stupid T-fitting they put in for the fresh water flush. It get's all gummed up and the check-ball spring portion of it sticks and closes off the water flow. All you need is a T in the system; not that damn check balll spring loaded piece of chit.

Also, check your heat exchanger for clogs.
And, you have to change the antifreeze. It's only good for 5-6 years, max. It silts up and does not flow as well.

now that you mentioned it,,,didnt early 496 have those check ball spring valves on the bottom of the exhaust manifolds also

Sydwayz 03-28-2012 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by TWIN-SPINS (Post 3651194)
now that you mentioned it,,,didnt early 496 have those check ball spring valves on the bottom of the exhaust manifolds also

All 496s have an air system with a schraeder valve (valve stem) that you can pressurize which allows the water to drain out of the block and accessories; for extending the boating season.

Totally different system though.

When these fail, they fail open, to where the spring does not close all the way, and the FW side has a leak at one of the actuators.

Or, the air system can fail, and the actuator will not open when air pressure is applied.

Either way, this system should not effect cooling unless you have water leaking out due to a faulty spring. If this was happening, you would have a bilge filling with water.
Ask me how I know that. :evilb:

Raylar 03-28-2012 11:42 PM

Those lovely ball check valves that Mercruiser put under the 496 exhaust manifolds can corrode , stick and break in two different posiitons. They are actually a check valve that is supposed to allow raw water to enter up into the exhaust manifold when the engine is running and fall back when the engine is off to keep water in the exhaust manifolds during short off persiods and allow them to drain slowly after longer off persiods. the problem comes in that they can stick closed up to prevent water flow into the manifolds , overheat the manifold and the engine quite quickly or they can stick open and allow most of the raw water when running to by-pass the manifold and overheat in the same ways. Not flushing the engine well after salt water usage and not running a strainer and pumping debris into the system hastens and causes a lot of this sticking and failures.

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

dominics79 03-30-2012 10:41 AM

raises to about 185-190

TWIN-SPINS 03-30-2012 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3651240)
All 496s have an air system with a schraeder valve (valve stem) that you can pressurize which allows the water to drain out of the block and accessories; for extending the boating season.

Totally different system though.

When these fail, they fail open, to where the spring does not close all the way, and the FW side has a leak at one of the actuators.

Or, the air system can fail, and the actuator will not open when air pressure is applied.

Either way, this system should not effect cooling unless you have water leaking out due to a faulty spring. If this was happening, you would have a bilge filling with water.
Ask me how I know that. :evilb:

iam not talking about the air system,,,but what raylar is talking about

Sydwayz 03-30-2012 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by TWIN-SPINS (Post 3652536)
iam not talking about the air system,,,but what raylar is talking about

Good call Raylar & T-S. I didn't know that was there.

boatnutt 07-28-2012 10:23 PM

I was just in a Daytona this weekend and I noticed after a few high speed passes the temp also went to 185 to 190. Is it because of the whipped kit on the 496ho? Or should it stay cool? What is normal operating temps for a 496 ho?

blownhammer2000 07-28-2012 11:13 PM

160 thermostat, mine runs 170ish and climbs to just under 180 after a hard run, has always run like this, i'm also running the hardin stainless seapump, i need to change the antifreeze but not sure if it will run any cooler than it does now

indywhsle 07-30-2012 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by boatnutt (Post 3741073)
I was just in a Daytona this weekend and I noticed after a few high speed passes the temp also went to 185 to 190. Is it because of the whipped kit on the 496ho? Or should it stay cool? What is normal operating temps for a 496 ho?

Not whipple but procharger.
I was having the same issue but at cruising rpm (3500-3800) I also installed the hardin sea pump. I purchased a scan tool from Rinda after taking Ray's advice. With the scan tool hooked up running on the hose I noticed that my gauge was reading almost 15 degrees warmer than the computer was reading. Just something you may want to check. I also cleaned the heat exchange and found a bunch of stuff in there. My next thing to check is the oil cooler as my oil temps seem to get a little high after a hard run (220-240 on the gauge).

Amarket Owner 12-17-2012 05:13 PM

Go to this site just about the problems for the gen 7--496 pump.
http://www.marine-496pump.com/
If your pump body ends look like this problem pump there is your cure.
If not check if the input hose is crushed. The fix for that problem is on the page called the im654
Good luck Buddy


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