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35fountain 06-21-2012 05:47 PM

QFT makes marine carbs now..The are neat looking also

http://www.cpperformance.com/c-1500-...rburetors.aspx

articfriends 06-21-2012 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 3710755)
Get yourself a pair of Holley Double Pumpers and enjoy life.

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I have used these bastards on street cars and trucks, drag cars and boats. I have used most of the others. Other than EFI or Direct Injection...this is the best fuel delivery piece of equipment I have ever used. It's like having 2: 2 barrel carburetors and you have 100% direct control as to when and how far the secondaries open.

As far as tuning...you adjust float levels with the engine running!!!:evilb: You can screw around with jet sizes if you are into some exotic cam grinds and blowers but I have always had great results right out of the box.

I replaced stock carburetors and used these on the Following: '56 Chevy with 327/350 horse. '70 Chevelle SS 454 LS-6 460 horse, '74 Pontiac Trans Am 455 SD, '77 Z/28 Camaro 355 350 horse, '77 Formula F-18 302 Ford/300 horse, '83 Formula F3 355/325 horse, '68 Z/28 Camaro 406 435 horse, '79 Formula 255 Liberator twin 355 375 horse.

I don't work for Holley...I'm a contractor and Mechanical Engineer by profession.

Now you know what I REALLY THINK!!:evilb:

Not to get on a rant...but I love these damn things because they give you so much control over the boat. throttle response on my twin 355 Vortecs is instantaneous....no hesitation

Hey, I hope you didn't throw away that 3000$ Quadrajet off the 74 SD transam!! I have also worked on a few LS6 Chevelles and they had factory holley 4557 carbs from the factory so unless carb was trashed or you were building a total dragster I would make the stocker work!

sprink58 06-21-2012 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3714931)
Hey, I hope you didn't throw away that 3000$ Quadrajet off the 74 SD transam!! I have also worked on a few LS6 Chevelles and they had factory holley 4557 carbs from the factory so unless carb was trashed or you were building a total dragster I would make the stocker work!

Nope ...sold both cars with the original carbs mounted on them to keep them original. I respect the purity.

The LS-6 got "Temporarily" a Holley "3-barrel" 1000 CFM sitting on top a first generation Edelbrock Tarantula (I know...I'm dating myself) and a set of 2 1/8" primary "Hooker" headers. With 4:56 12 bolt and M & H wrinkle wall drag masters...we ran 11.4 @112 MPH. the car ran 12.8/105 stock. The big improvement was the 455SD. Going to a Edelbrock square bore "Ram Air VI" intake with a 850 DP we went from 13.7 @101 to 12.1@114. The Holley ate the Q-Jet up in the 60' times. :evilb:

Getting back on track...I love the feel of a DP on a boat, It's always there...snappy throttle response. I've been in some tight spots running inlets in weather that I shouldn't have been in. The Holley throttle response up and down in those situations made a huge difference.

On a lake or river where it seldom becomes a critical factor I guess a vacuum carb is a fair choice...but in the open ocean or the great lakes when you need immediate throttle response...you can't afford the lag time of waiting on secondary barrels to cut in on a vacuum carburetor.

It's a fair debate and one I enjoy.

NightHawk 06-22-2012 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 3714209)
I've been using Edelbrock marine carbs for years. Very easy to work on. No gaskets below the fuel level. I think one of the issues is you are running 750's on a small block. I run 750's on big blocks and a lot of folks think they are still to big and if putting along they are right. But I don't put much.

+1 ...and just because the Edlebrock provides you with greater ease of tuning and flexibility dosen't make them inferior carbs. There's a systematic process of dialing in the right jet sizes and metering rods once you have the right size carb to begin with.

bens87241 06-22-2012 07:15 AM

i would agree i build alot of custom cars for ppl and one of my fav combos is a 383 stroker putting out about 425 with 9.5 to 1 comp i always use an out of box stk 650 electric choke on these things and have never had any tuning issue. If you are are putting 2 750 dp holleys on i think that is way to much. I might of read the posting wrong but it sounded like you were going to use 2 of them. My drag car is a 464 buick motor running deep in the 10s and i run a 950 hp holley so to think a stoke sbc needs 1500 cfm unless there is a blower or something i missed i think that way over killl

as far as the charts go with the edy i think they are helpful they have 2 differant color dots one that is cover by the tuning kit and the other are other parts you would have to get on your own. its pretty easy to look the number dot up you want and put those parts in and try.

From my experance most tuning can by done right in the springs and rod and almost never need to change jets unless its something big. so you can test change right on the water in minutes and test again with no gas spilling on the motor. i also like that they have no gaskets below the gas level no leaks. my opnly issue is they are harder to set the float level on than a holley. but to change jets both carbs harve 8 bolts and 4 jets just depends. plus the edys dont have power valve to blow. just remeber with the edy the stiffer the springs the sooner you will get power enrichment. most ppl think of it backwards. when tuning a carb i always add gas first to prevent a dangerous lean condition if it gets worse then i take away. what issue are you having directly maybe you said and i missed it

THRILLSEEKER 06-22-2012 08:43 AM

2-carbs, one for each motor. Holley doesnt offer a 650cfm carb with mechanical secondarys, so I went with the 750s.

sprink58 06-22-2012 12:29 PM

With the cams you are running on 383's a 750 DP will probably nail it.

[email protected] 12-08-2019 12:46 PM

Run what you brung. Should be good to start with that. The carb is a little big tho
 

Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 3714099)
Good choice...who did you deal with?

The 750 is hard to get wrong and has been said...you should be close out of the box. Run a while and see how you like it ...you may decide not to mess with it. You will love the control you have with those carbs.

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BUP 12-09-2019 10:30 AM

Edelbrock has the kits to fine tune the Weber s / Edelbrock marine carbs. I buy them and have no problems dialing in those carbs right but for the past 6 years I really do not see that many carb apps anymore especially currently ..

It is wise to have a strong working complete ignition system as well. Can not tell you how many times boaters try to dial in their carbs and they have 20 year old ignition components and 10 year old spark plugs. Also for merc apps using the T bolt V ignition you have to put that in base timing mode to dial in the idle and some other adjustments for jist.


SkiDoc 12-09-2019 01:42 PM

I live in Bowling Green, home of Holley and Quick Fuel. Quick Fuel is a very good option. Holley design refined. They run all the carbs on engines before shipping. Holley is doing a great job now as well.


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