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Plaineman 06-28-2012 04:36 PM

Water getting in my crank case... am I doomed???
 
Engine is a 2000 7.4 MPI (Gen Vi). Its raw water cooled and has been running in salt water since late 1999. Prolly got close to 1500 hours. Now I understand that normally there should be no more questions and its time to repower but I just cannot afford it now so I am trying to salvage for another year or two. So far, I know that it is not the oil cooler and there is no water getting into cylinders. It runs well on the hose. I have changed the oil twice and still looks like chocolate milk. I guess the worst case would be that the block is cracked but where else should I start? Could it be any of the manifolds or risers and not cause water in cylinders? Head gasket maybe (i did heads 3 years ago). Just looking for some more insight here before i call it a season.

Thanks guys!

mr3dman 06-28-2012 08:17 PM

13 years of salt water running? It was a good run, time to repower. Not worth the cheap fix imo

keith2500hd 06-28-2012 08:53 PM

could pull intake and check head to intake water ports for errision.

Fenderjack 06-28-2012 09:30 PM

Possible things could be intake manifold, head gaskets. Alot of hours but not even a year in salt ?


John jr

Plaineman 06-29-2012 04:08 AM

I know... it was a real good run!!! That motor has taken me to North to Nantuket Island and to the south to Baltimore... all running out of Queens!!! I just thought I could hold it together for another year or two. I guess I will pull it apart and see. Someone mentioned that I should do some sort of leak test before tearing it apart. Can anyone explain this to me. And how will this help me find an internal leak into my crank case??? Been 13 years in salt Fenderjack... 13 years!

Biggus 06-29-2012 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by keith2500hd (Post 3720072)
could pull intake and check head to intake water ports for errision.

Agreed. Also if it was not winterized properly, you'll know when you pull the intake as they always seem to crack in the lifter valley.

Plaineman 06-29-2012 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3720231)
Agreed. Also if it was not winterized properly, you'll know when you pull the intake as they always seem to crack in the lifter valley.

Okay so I pulled the intake and sure enough there is all kinds of mess going on. Lots of rust and corrosion... nothing obvious as far as cracks go but I do believe this is my problem (I hope anyway). There was a bunch of white goo around inside of distributor hole... and some beaded water under manifold and sitting on top of the tin pan that covers the lifter valley. What's the move here? Replace the manifold and gaskets? Or shoud I take it to a machine shop and have them check for cracks then replace gaskets?

Your thoughts much appreciated...

Thanks.

JTeam 06-30-2012 07:34 AM

If the exhaust manifolds and risers are cast iron, I would check there first.

sutphen 30 06-30-2012 07:49 AM

pull thermostat housing and inside the water port,tap the floor of the water passage.bet its porous there.also,are the water port openings all corroded?might be able to use diesel silicone to seal up the ports,both sides of the gasket.

sutphen 30 06-30-2012 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by JTeam (Post 3720846)
If the exhaust manifolds and risers are cast iron, I would check there first.

rotted mani's would put water in the the cylinders.he doesn't have that,,yet.

dereknkathy 06-30-2012 01:05 PM

orig cast iron intake? replace it. replace the heads too. they are both more likely culprits than the block. and you need them for next motor anyway...

Plaineman 07-09-2012 09:06 AM

Just a quick follow up for those that may come across the same problem... I pulled the intake manifold (lower) and sent it out to be boiled and blasted and checked for cracks... Shop said all good. Told me I may need to replace in a few years but I hope to have new power by then anyway. I put it all back together with new gaskets and sucked out all the old oil and replaced. At first it was still milky (leftover residue) but after running on a hose for 15 min. i pulled the dipstick and CRYSTYL CLEAR!!!! Of course after moving stuff around upon removal I now have a leak in my fuel rail but thats a whole other issue due to corrosion. Ordered a new rail and I should be all good by weekend.

Thanks to all who helped... really appreciate it!


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