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stevesxm 07-21-2012 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3735418)
NO pics then it never happened
:evilb:

if you figure you can find your butt with both hands, feel free to repeat the test.

geeze. get a life, dickhead.

glassdave 07-24-2012 07:27 PM

Interesting comments on fuel on paint. As a painter i would never tell a customer any type of paint will stand up to fuel Tell ya why . . . . my suppliers dont. Every paint on the market may say at best "fuel resistant". You may have had luck in the past, maybe with old imron (which is probably your best bet) but it was just that . . . . luck. I've seen it go both ways, did a DCU2021 job several years ago and first time out with the paint just months old the owner over filled the tanks and fuel ran down the sides all night long in a hot storage building, four giant streams lifted like stripper right to the gel. On the other hand the vent system in my 38 totally sucks and always pukes fuel yet that has held up fine (its Donzi factory sprayed BASF). The best defense in the end is dont get fuel on it and if it does dont let it on there long. Most paints today are not what they were in the past, much has change as far as how they are made. EPA has had a big impact on the stuff, todays Imron is not what it was ten years ago but its still pretty bad azz.

After seeing this happen quite a few times i wonder if you could add a catch type reservoir in the vent line. Maybe like a water trap for an air compressor (i know ya cant actually use one of those but maybe something like that)

teamsynergy 07-24-2012 07:43 PM

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After my issue, I tig'd up a couple of inserts that go into the top of my fuel fill hose. They have a "T" welded in place that allows the vent to "Dump" fuel upon a "puke" condition while still venting vapor. My preference is not to test this again however, in theory, it should would just fine. The bent tube when installed will be pointing up to help eliminate filling the vent line with fuel during a fill up. The other hardware is a few extra clamps and a 1/2" brass "T" in the vent line.

glassdave 07-24-2012 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by teamsynergy (Post 3738214)
After my issue, I tig'd up a couple of inserts that go into the top of my fuel fill hose. They have a "T" welded in place that allows the vent to "Dump" fuel upon a "puke" condition while still venting vapor. My preference is not to test this again however, in theory, it should would just fine. The bent tube when installed will be pointing up to help eliminate filling the vent line with fuel during a fill up. The other hardware is a few extra clamps and a 1/2" brass "T" in the vent line.

cool, so it hits that before the open air vent. Good idea, mine seems to puke a wet vapor never a full fluid puke and may need a catch type can. Post up how that system works.

Your system should eliminate the fuel peculating out of the tank vent on those hot nights by allowing the fill side to equalize as well

dbkski 07-24-2012 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by teamsynergy (Post 3730822)
You can add me to that list... Happened Friday.... Found today at the beach in Kenosha.

Damn Todd. I thought I was the only knucklehead that
overfilled my tank on Friday. Mine did not even get off the
trailer when I noticed the yellow/brownish streak on the side
of the boat. A few paper towels and some water from the
cooler and I was good to go. In this instance I feel lucky to
have a plain white boat. :lolhit:

teamsynergy 07-25-2012 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by dbkski (Post 3738414)
Damn Todd. I thought I was the only knucklehead that
overfilled my tank on Friday. Mine did not even get off the
trailer when I noticed the yellow/brownish streak on the side
of the boat. A few paper towels and some water from the
cooler and I was good to go. In this instance I feel lucky to
have a plain white boat. :lolhit:

Didn't overfill the boat... heat from Friday plus traveling causing the expansion thus making the fuel leak from the vent. Difference between yours and mine is paint vs. gel coat. I believe gel coat is much more resilient to this type of thing while clear coat/paint is not.

steve chalupka 07-25-2012 08:06 AM

glassdave great comments about the fuel.
IMO it's all a matter of the length of time that the fuel touches the paint. You're at the gas station, it "spits out" you rinse off and rewax no problem.
I really owe alot to Teamsynergy. What a great guy who came up with a workable solution that should significantly reduce the possiblity of this ever happening again. Can't thank you enough my friend!
Mitch will be at my place Monday and Tuesday to once again restore the beauty to my Sonic.
He advised me "not" to get into a pi_____ match with other people on the forum who may not really have the knowledge. Thank to guys like TS for making constructive comments and well thought out "fixes" to problems!
S -

FIXX 07-25-2012 03:37 PM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by teamsynergy (Post 3738214)
After my issue, I tig'd up a couple of inserts that go into the top of my fuel fill hose. They have a "T" welded in place that allows the vent to "Dump" fuel upon a "puke" condition while still venting vapor. My preference is not to test this again however, in theory, it should would just fine. The bent tube when installed will be pointing up to help eliminate filling the vent line with fuel during a fill up. The other hardware is a few extra clamps and a 1/2" brass "T" in the vent line.

so i take it thease are uscg approved eh! :lolhit:

teamsynergy 07-25-2012 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3738922)
so i take it thease are uscg approved eh! :lolhit:

I'm glad you asked that question... yes, this method is USCG approved as:

A) You are not dumping fuel into the hull.

B) You are still venting outside the hull through a flame arrestor and are limiting the flow to 2 gallons per minute or less.

USCG Reg's
http://www.uscgboating.org/regulatio...rds_partd.aspx

Elite Marine 07-25-2012 09:05 PM

Same thing happened to me Steve. Didnt know Mitch made house calls!! Im in Antioch and could have used a touch up!! I dont park boat on driveway with more than 1/2 a tank now. Yes its a pain but better than ruining my paint!


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