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496HO to a 540ci
Ok, I want to trade out the 496HO & put in a 540ish 600+ hp efi engine. Couple questions. If I buy a long block well built 540, put a whipple kit on it, will all the accessories off my 496ho work? Ie closed cooling, fuel, sensors,gauges, etc. Trying to decide on buying a drop in engine or just putting one together. I don't think a 500 efi would get me where I need to be. What about supercharging a stock 502? Just trying to do this one time, as economically as possible. I understand its still going to be expensive, just don't want to wast $$$$. I have to be efi due to the lovely Co altitude and all the different elevations I run at. From 600' up to 8000'. Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by TROR
(Post 3740050)
Ok, I want to trade out the 496HO & put in a 540ish 600+ hp efi engine. Couple questions. If I buy a long block well built 540, put a whipple kit on it, will all the accessories off my 496ho work? Ie closed cooling, fuel, sensors,gauges, etc. Trying to decide on buying a drop in engine or just putting one together. I don't think a 500 efi would get me where I need to be. What about supercharging a stock 502? Just trying to do this one time, as economically as possible. I understand its still going to be expensive, just don't want to wast $$$$. I have to be efi due to the lovely Co altitude and all the different elevations I run at. From 600' up to 8000'. Any suggestions?
It's not on their site but is supposed to be available if you call. Of course, without new heads, intake etc it may be a wash in terms of money or some difference plus or minus. For instance, in my engine it would net 700+ hp which is about 80+ from where I am and I think it's around 5k to get one. Don't know if there is a core or not.. I've seen two of these so far and they seem like a pretty good option (for me at least). The 496 closed cooling system will not bolt onto any of the 502 stuff. It can be done but not as simple as bolt on. |
SDFever, thanks for the input! What engine are you running? The Dart long block you mentioned? As far as fabrication of brackets etc, that's no problem. I build full blown rock crawlers when im not working on/polishing on/ playing with the boat! Like the idea of a well built long block& going from there. Trying to figure out if I should run some modified factory intake,like a 500, a dart intake w/aftermarket efi, or something different. Doesn't the whipple come with intake, Injectors, sensors etc?
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Originally Posted by TROR
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SDFever, thanks for the input! What engine are you running? The Dart long block you mentioned? As far as fabrication of brackets etc, that's no problem. I build full blown rock crawlers when im not working on/polishing on/ playing with the boat! Like the idea of a well built long block& going from there. Trying to figure out if I should run some modified factory intake,like a 500, a dart intake w/aftermarket efi, or something different. Doesn't the whipple come with intake, Injectors, sensors etc?
I'm deep enough that if I keep it long term the Dart piece would work well for me most likely. For others, may be better off to just get another platform. I'd be interested in a bone stock 496 take-out for the right price. I could get same if not more for my boat and have a real nice engine left over for a work bench. |
Cool SDfever, Im cracking out looking for a custom built, or a 525, something like that.I will be possibly selling the 496ho, so I will hit you up if so!!
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The closed cooling on your 496 is sized for 400hp. It may prove inadequate with 600hp unless you boat exclusively in chilly waters. A larger heat exchanger from a marine diesel may be an easy modification that gives you what you are after.
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Originally Posted by SDFever
(Post 3740538)
For instance, in my engine it would net 700+ hp which is about 80+ from where I am and I think it's around 5k to get one. Don't know if there is a core or not.. What constitutes a core? If it has a gaping hole in #7 is that acceptable? LOL - Kidding... |
Originally Posted by mcollinstn
(Post 3742195)
The closed cooling on your 496 is sized for 400hp. It may prove inadequate with 600hp unless you boat exclusively in chilly waters. A larger heat exchanger from a marine diesel may be an easy modification that gives you what you are after.
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Heat exchanger is the same size and capacity as used on the Mercury Racing 700SCI so it's adequate and there are many Raylar equipped 600-650HP engines running it with good cooling and temperature numbers all over the world. The oil cooler and oil filter line sizes that definitely need upgrading when going to 600HP plus, but that's it. I have built a few Whipple eqipped 496's with 800HP and they run the stock Merc 496 closed cooling system with some even at Havasu with 110-120 degree summer temperatures. If you want to know how to build a 496 engine up to 600HP plus you can just ask me how and with what and I will keep you correctly informed. Askmy customers many here on OSO and through out the world and they will tell you who knows what about Merc 496's or 8.1L marine or truck performance engines.
Regards, Ray @ Raylar |
Originally Posted by Raylar
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Heat exchanger is the same size and capacity as used on the Mercury Racing 700SCI so it's adequate and there are many Raylar equipped 600-650HP engines running it with good cooling and temperature numbers all over the world. The oil cooler and oil filter line sizes that definitely need upgrading when going to 600HP plus, but that's it. I have built a few Whipple eqipped 496's with 800HP and they run the stock Merc 496 closed cooling system with some even at Havasu with 110-120 degree summer temperatures. If you want to know how to build a 496 engine up to 600HP plus you can just ask me how and with what and I will keep you correctly informed. Askmy customers many here on OSO and through out the world and they will tell you who knows what about Merc 496's or 8.1L marine or truck performance engines.
Regards, Ray @ Raylar On building up the 496ho vs starting from scratch vs buying a used drop in. Im just looking at options so I get the most for my $$$. All hp is expensive, but 650-700hp that's efi is really expensive!!!! |
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