Raylar 496 kit
 

I'm looking for a complete Raylar 496 kit, I heard that Ray from Raylar is no longer in business....
Maybe anybody has one of this kit in stock, THANKs
Daniel

www.raylarengine.com call toll free (866) 496-8181 - email [email protected]

I know they were / are a active member here on OSO

Raylar
 

Can anyone confirm if Raylar are still trading?

Are the Raylar kits available from anyone other than direct from Raylar?

Ray is the "bible" on the 496 and I always appreciate his advice. I am hoping to get one of his kits when funds permit?

CHris Carter

From what I read/understood. Raylar the company is still in business. Ray has left. But the company is still in business... Again, this is my understanding. Their website is still up. Call their number and see if someone answers....

Is there anything new on this? I haven't seen or heard in a bit.

Ray was posting just the other day.

That's good....would hate for him to not be around.

RAylar Kits
 

I sent an email request to Raylar a couple of weeks ago and have not had a response?

You need to contact Larry. I warned you guys couple months ago and all i got was chicken-chit threats from keyboard punks.

And they deleted my thread (based on incorrect assumptions) and a response from Ray that was not accurate.

He's not there anymore.

Larry
 

Larry is the contact for raylar and any of your 496 needs. Sdfever is in the know...for those that don't know raylar was the brain child of ray Brody AND Larry Hofer. Ray is not part of the operation at Larry's shop where the 496 kits are put together.

For What It's Worth
 

I have the Raylar 600hp short block with only about 60 hours and 4 good, clean oil samples.

I'm upgrading so if you want a good bottom end this is an option. Has forged crank, h-beam rods, forged pistons etc.

It's line bored, decked & punched out 30 over. I can send video of running engine in boat as I have not taken it out yet or taken it apart.

comes fully assembled short block (oil pain, timing cover, balancer etc installed). All you have to do is put your top end and accessories on and go. You can either use your stock heads etc or upgrade to whatever you wanna do.

It's a min 6k investment (what i spent) and i'm selling for 4k. It's known good and I'm not out to scam anyone. Only synthetic oil used etc never run hot and oil changed 4 times since built. It also has the original Mercury Serial Number on the block so I could send video of that as proof or whatever you want.

Are you switching to the Dart 600 c.i block? I want to as well but nothing for another year.

yes maybe some larger cnc heads & new intake with dual throttlebody etc..

Perhaps if you put your thread in "Industry News" instead of
"Beware and Stolen" your info would have been taken in
stride. The way you did it seemed like gloating about the fall
of a good guy and/or demise/decline of a good company.

Once again accurate info is always wanted but without the
"secret source" bullsh!t that seems to sometimes arise here
on OSO. I have not read nor could I find Ray's response to
the news about a split at Raylar.

Personally I think Ray's contribution to OSO was great. I have
used his advice.

Yeah well it's not like I'm notorious for starting problems with people on here and it has nothing to do with "industry news" when you're only trying to help a couple. No one reads that section when they are about to be scammed or the like.

Geezus dude.

And for the record, you did not get advice from anyone but Larry Hofer. He's the one who provided all the info and education that got printed etc. Call him if you want - I don't care. 858-277-8388

And to say it seemed like I was "gloating".... Maybe you should slow down and read. I've neve taken comfort in anyone's misfortune etc.

You don't even know me.

Thats cool...Ray will need all the friends he can get. I'm sure he will appreciate your support! I am a personal friend of Larry so to respect him I WILL keep some things a secret....Its none of your business anyways.

While I admit ray does share a wealth of knowledge on OSO it does not mean he is a super swell guy. I will let you in on a little secret...all of the "correct" info that ray has shared over the years has come straight from Larry.

To answer the OP's original question
 

This thread was started to find out where to get a raylar kit. The kits are available if you call Larry Hofer at 858-277-8388.

Anyone can call or email Ray til there blue in the face....there is no one home:poopoo:

THe Raylar kit is more top end gear, or "long" motor gear(heads, roller rockers, intake, throttle body, cam and pistons with bigger valve relief) plus ECU uprade. You are looking to sell short block which from your description does not include the "kit" gear? Or have I mis understood?

CHris Carter

Thanks. Just for clarrity, is the Raylar engineering website with kit details etc not now linked to Larry?

It is in the works. For now the best bet would be to call Larry direct. Larry is not as techie on the computer as ray was.

Carts,

You are correct in that originally the kit was only or mostly top end. However, they also had a deal where in which you could send your entire engine to them. They would rebuild the entire rotating assembly and then put the kits on top.

So what I am offering is the bottom end - nicely finished block, line bored, decked & with slightly larger pistons etc. So to get to the 600 this was necessary.

This was the fix for the bad stock pistons but also made the engine a lot more reliable at that power.

The short block I'm selling is no longer "just a 496". It's at or close to 509 with forged pistons, bigger rods & forged crank.

So what are you doing with your heads, intake, throttle body etc? Will these go on the Dart 600 block?

There is a pair listed in the classifieds with the 103 kit no exhaust....seems to be a great price and he will split.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o48207-en.html

I'm keeping except the built short block.

One of those has a broken piston so you would need to add in the cost of fixing that as well. The price in the ad is not "reality".

Just be careful.

If one could be had for $4000-4500 I think it is a good deal....you can hardly get a block for that price. Either way I would freshen it up before using again. And the cost of just the 103 kit is like $8K for one??

Well, if you figure you can have a 600 inch block brand new for 2K..

And the 496 block has those junk pistons in it..

And if you consider I'd be doing well to get 4500 for mine with all the good stuff and block work that's been done..

I don't see how anybody would be willing to pay that plus what it cost to make it right. If only because you pay 4 to 5k but then have to spend at least another say 2k + and not have anything very nice??

Opinions vary but having been through this with this engine multiple times I don't think they're worth much and the one with low compression you may as well plan on spending 6k on it after you pay the purchase price.

Also depends on what your skill set is. Just my opinion but I think a stock 496 bottom end that is in good shape would bring around 2500 UNLESS you have nothing to start with. But even then, the numbers start putting a buyer in other directions once you have to pony up to spending much at all.

If a guy has a block that is not damaged then the cheapest way is just to fix that one with god parts.

Both of those engines have stock pistons with higher compression from the kits so they are on borrowed time regardless of condition.

I agree and then add in the 300 hour BCK-103 Kit it comes with...$4000-4500 is not bad at all....and I agree, you would need to go through it to make it right. The OP was looking for a Raylar kit and this is a used alternative.

Sure, if the heads are in good shape it could really pencil out. And there isn't anything in that kit limited to 300 hours.

Get the block all dialed. Re-lap the valves and do springs should be good and to your point it would be a cheaper alternative for sure. I didn't realize he was letting them go with the parts.

Would be good to know if they have the cast or forged cranks in them..

Why the strange lift brackets? Sure they arent truck engines?

IMO, they arent worth that kind of money. Especially since they arent complete with throttle body, sensors, ECM, cooler, water pump, alternator.... Assuming you need to rebuild, the blocks have little value. When I rebuilt mine I needed a block and found dozens on craigslist for $300.