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the deep 10-16-2012 06:27 PM

Starting issue 89' 350 OMC Cobra
 
Brother in laws boat only wants to start when you let off the key after cranking . When it decides to start it runs great . Installed new ignition switch , tuned engine , new fuel pump and water separator and removed check ball from tank . I suspect the resister wire has gone south but did not get a chance to put a meter to it . Anyone else run into this problem ? Any suggestions would be appreciated . Problem is the same if engine is warm or cold .

mrv8outboard 10-17-2012 07:32 AM

Your symptoms point to no key on power to the ignition coil. There is a start/run bypass circuit that energizes the ignition coil during crank, so it will start but let off the key and it dies. You can test it with a jumper wire from B+ to IGN on the coil and it should run.

Now what are the possible causes? Your first thought of ignition resistor. Also the shift switch or module. A test light or better a VOA meter and test it.

the deep 10-17-2012 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by mrv8outboard (Post 3797317)
Your symptoms point to no key on power to the ignition coil. There is a start/run bypass circuit that energizes the ignition coil during crank, so it will start but let off the key and it dies. You can test it with a jumper wire from B+ to IGN on the coil and it should run.

Now what are the possible causes? Your first thought of ignition resistor. Also the shift switch or module. A test light or better a VOA meter and test it.

Thanks . Problem is it does not fire while cranking , only wants to fire when you release the key to the run position . I checked to make sure the ignition interrupt system is not activated while shifter is in neutral . I did put a test light to the + coil terminal and it shows power while cranking and when the key is in the run position . Seems like the running starter motor has something to do with this . I have never run into this problem before . Thanks again for your help .

the deep 10-17-2012 09:26 PM

Anyone ? Before my fix is a hole in the bottom ! http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...deep/rant2.gif

mike tkach 10-18-2012 12:11 AM

i would check the voltage at coil while cranking with a digital volt meter,instead of a test lite,this way you will know exactly how much voltage the coil has while cranking,if it is to low,the spark might be weak.

picklenjim 10-18-2012 12:41 AM

There's a wire that runs from the starter solenoid to the coil + that provides full voltage to the coil during cranking only. When you release the key it no longer supplies full voltage to the coil but then gets reduced voltage through the resister wire. Sounds like nothing is wrong with the resister wire. On a merc it's a Purple/Yelo wire. Don't know what color it would be on an OMC.

jbones98 10-18-2012 01:28 AM

i would suspect the ignition switch itself contacts could be gummed up or if it has been replaced may be wired incorrectly. i had changed the tach out and reversed 2 wires it took me an hour to figure out what i did. hotwire it an drive it like you stole it

mrv8outboard 10-18-2012 08:39 AM

Okay, my mistake. There is a start/run bypass wire the is connected to the starter solenoid IGN terminal. It is one of the small terminals. The yellow with the red tracer lead is crank voltage, so it would be the opposing terminal. During crank the starters high amp draw pulls all the battery voltage to the starter, leaving very little for everything else. So they tap off the solenoid where all the power is going during crank to energize the ignition with no resisted battery voltage. So test that circuit, first at the solenoid (starter mounted) with the wire disconnected, then the wire to the coil.

the deep 10-18-2012 10:26 AM

Thanks guys , will do .


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