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540ci. Got questions
Ok. Been talking about this build forever, every time I get close to a start something else comes up in my life and this hits the back burner.
I think I'm ready to start slowly accumulating parts. Want to build 540ci, na, pump gas 93 (I live in Australia and from what I understand your 93 is our 98. Correct if I'm wrong), hydraulic roller setup, 650-700hp max (want to use bravo Xr. It's a light 21' boat), efi and closed cooled, maximum reliability, no intention of forced induction. Here is what I know I'm going to use so far (chime in if anyone has a reason why not to use the following): - Dart big m sportsman 4.5 bore, 9.8 deck - scat crank 4.25 - scat rods - sr pistons - dart pro 1 marine heads - Holley efi and intake - Dana exhaust manifolds Here's the questions so far: - What comp ratio should I be going for and what cc heads and piston shape to suit? - cnc or standard marine heads? - cam? - rings? Brand, file fit or standard - sump? - dart offer block prep before shipping, is this worth while or will it need to have machine work done anyway? - anyone used holleys self tune on boat? Is it reliable or would it be better off dyno tuned? - valves and roller assembly (lifters, rockers, push rods etc.)? - closed cooling kit? - bearings? - where does everyone get there billet pulleys? - ignition? I'm sure ill think of more later Thanks for any input. |
If I was going to start from scrach I would go with a tall deck block. 10.200 More room to expand later.
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Haxbey speed has done a thread on the Holley Efi a lot of good info.
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Start at 4.560 bore. Still plenty of room for a few overbores after that. 10.0 to 1 compression. 10cc small dome pistons.
AFR 315 cnc heads and a decent size hyd. roller will make 700 and still have good dock manners. |
I have heard mixed things on afr's casting thickness. I know everyone says they flow great numbers from the box however I'd like this build to last a long time and darts pro1 heads look the better option in that respect. Not knocking afr, I really do think they are at the top of the tree with dart and brodix, just like some meat.
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Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 3824808)
If I was going to start from scrach I would go with a tall deck block. 10.200 More room to expand later.
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Originally Posted by Kurt Hamilton
(Post 3824973)
I have heard mixed things on afr's casting thickness. I know everyone says they flow great numbers from the box however I'd like this build to last a long time and darts pro1 heads look the better option in that respect. Not knocking afr, I really do think they are at the top of the tree with dart and brodix, just like some meat .
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Originally Posted by Kurt Hamilton
(Post 3824624)
Ok. Been talking about this build forever, every time I get close to a start something else comes up in my life and this hits the back burner.
I think I'm ready to start slowly accumulating parts. Want to build 540ci, na, pump gas 93 (I live in Australia and from what I understand your 93 is our 98. Correct if I'm wrong), hydraulic roller setup, 650-700hp max (want to use bravo Xr. It's a light 21' boat), efi and closed cooled, maximum reliability, no intention of forced induction. Here is what I know I'm going to use so far (chime in if anyone has a reason why not to use the following): - Dart big m sportsman 4.5 bore, 9.8 deck - scat crank 4.25 - scat rods - sr pistons - dart pro 1 marine heads - Holley efi and intake - Dana exhaust manifolds Here's the questions so far: - What comp ratio should I be going for and what cc heads and piston shape to suit? - cnc or standard marine heads? - cam? - rings? Brand, file fit or standard - sump? - dart offer block prep before shipping, is this worth while or will it need to have machine work done anyway? - anyone used holleys self tune on boat? Is it reliable or would it be better off dyno tuned? - valves and roller assembly (lifters, rockers, push rods etc.)? - closed cooling kit? - bearings? - where does everyone get there billet pulleys? - ignition? I'm sure ill think of more later Thanks for any input. Sounds like a good build Kurt. I'd look into the Callies Compstar stuff as well. Really good quality for the $. You can easily hit your hp goal with the Dart's or AFR. I did a very similar 540 combo in the spring for a whitewater Jet boat. It was lower compression so it would live on 87-89 octane, and had a very mild hyd roller from Bob Madara to ensure the valve train has a long life, Gen VI block. This combo could easily hit the 700hp mark with a couple minor changes. 540, AFR 305's, Holley HP EFI, Dana exhaust. Dyno'd fully dressed with wet exhaust. |
Originally Posted by the deep
(Post 3825082)
Where have you heard this about thin castings on the AFR's . I think someone is feeding you :bsflag:
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Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed
(Post 3825131)
Sounds like a good build Kurt. I'd look into the Callies Compstar stuff as well. Really good quality for the $. You can easily hit your hp goal with the Dart's or AFR.
I did a very similar 540 combo in the spring for a whitewater Jet boat. It was lower compression so it would live on 87-89 octane, and had a very mild hyd roller from Bob Madara to ensure the valve train has a long life, Gen VI block. This combo could easily hit the 700hp mark with a couple minor changes. 540, AFR 305's, Holley HP EFI, Dana exhaust. Dyno'd fully dressed with wet exhaust. What is that closed cooling system your using? |
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