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ThisIsLivin 12-10-2012 12:15 PM

Anyone Tried Extractors?
 
I have a set of Lightning headers and I'm thinking of adding O2 bungs and while I have them off, adding extractors. I know they don't add a lot of horsepower, but they help the rings seal better and last longer. Has anyone tried this and with what level of success?

MILD THUNDER 12-10-2012 12:59 PM

Are you talking about ''Burn Downs"?? Where the exhaust pulls a vacuum on the crankcase?

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 12-10-2012 01:01 PM

Why haven't the vacuum pumps been used either. I think NASCAR even uses them.

ThisIsLivin 12-10-2012 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3829478)
Are you talking about ''Burn Downs"?? Where the exhaust pulls a vacuum on the crankcase?

Yes I am, I've never heard of them called "Burn Downs" before. I have looked at Vacuum pumps, but they need to be rebuilt after every season. Extractors just seemed a low buck way to gain a few hp and increase engine life.

Gimme Fuel 12-10-2012 03:44 PM

:food-smiley-007: You have my attention....what are "Extractors" exactly?

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 12-10-2012 03:54 PM

I have looked at Vacuum pumps, but they need to be rebuilt after every season.

Doesn't everything on a f%^$%^* boat? :lolhit:

abones 12-10-2012 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Gimme Fuel (Post 3829592)
:food-smiley-007: You have my attention....what are "Extractors" exactly?

We used them on drag boats back in the day!! you weld in a port in each header that as the exhaust gases pass by the port it creates a vacumn that you can use to remove crankcase presuure, like a PCV valve but you don't reburn the fumes, it just goes out with the exhaust,

It worked real good with dry Headers

Jeff P31 12-10-2012 04:31 PM

Used them for years on drag engines , now they all use pumps .

MILD THUNDER 12-10-2012 05:09 PM

http://www.cpperformance.com/p-14258...ac-system.aspx

http://www.cpperformance.com/p-13507...-breather.aspx

compedgemarine 12-10-2012 09:01 PM

they work fine on drag engines that only see a few seconds of WOT but when run for extended periods they can pull oil from the wrist pins and cylinder walls. NASCAR engines run pin oil drilled rods and oil squirter for the bottom of the pistons, etc, etc, so they can use them without issue. if the engine is not set up for all the additional oiling then the evacuation can cause more harm than the few HP you would gain. just my .02 cents though.

ThisIsLivin 12-11-2012 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by compedgemarine (Post 3829800)
they work fine on drag engines that only see a few seconds of WOT but when run for extended periods they can pull oil from the wrist pins and cylinder walls. NASCAR engines run pin oil drilled rods and oil squirter for the bottom of the pistons, etc, etc, so they can use them without issue. if the engine is not set up for all the additional oiling then the evacuation can cause more harm than the few HP you would gain. just my .02 cents though.

Not quite sure I get how reducing crankcase pressure would reduce piston pin oiling. I would actually tend to believe the opposite. By reducing crankcase pressure, you are decreasing the air density, thereby allowing oil slung from the crank to travel faster and farther. The picture that comes to mind is putting a feather in a vacuum, it drops like a rock, due to the lack of aerodynamic friction. the reduced pressure would also improve oil quality by lowering the boiling point of water. Interesting enough is that piston ring sealing is shown to be improved with lower crankcase pressures. Looks to me like I may be running an experiment next season.

Gimme Fuel 12-11-2012 02:07 PM

I am going to be running Total Seal MAXXSeal rings on this rebuild. I don't foresee a blowby problem with those but a little extra HP never hurts. I toyed with the idea of a vacuum pump on the previous motor due to the hardened race rings it used to help them seal.


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