EXHAUST TIPS: Straight or Angle Cut?
 

Just curious as to what everyone's preference was. I like the straight but I swear the angle tips are louder some how. (I may very well be crazy......)

Anyway, I am ordering new stuff for the boat tomorrow and I am having a hard time making up my mind.

Long and Straight is my preference. Also, easier to install to mufflers if youy go that way.

Yep straight, cuz I happen to have 2 of the 4 you need for sale lol

straight cuts are the way to go ------- if you can find them go with pipes that have an internal flapper that can be replaced... For extra protection you can put external flappers on or mufflers. Good luck



Jim

Yuck,,,,,I like the angle cut

Personal preference really

I personally don't like the soup can look . Angles are racy looking and you will gain 3 mph . :whistle:

If you don't have silent choice, I agree with cigboat. Plus the external muffler options like others have said.

If you have silent choice, angle cut for the looks.

Angle cut makes your boat look faster if that important to you.

just my opinion but the straight cuts have an "old school, agressive" look.

Especially when there 4.5" or 5" and dry! :)

Lol, I have a set of straights on the shelf for sale also!

Did the angle cuts from Stainless Marine on mine...they look great!

Angle!!

Angle cut looks better, straight if you plan to attach anything to them...

No plans for mufflers, originally wanted to buy thru hull dry tails but had an absolutely HORRIBLE time trying to get them from the place in florida that sells for cmi.

I don't think I have enough motor to need mufflers at this point anyway.

I had angle tips on my last boat and ended up adding muffler tips, I cut them off when needed. Just make sure you get ANYTHING you want long enough to meet future needs. I think somebody already said that, but it's good advice, spend a little extra for the long(er) ones on the outside. It's not that much more anyhow.

Did you try Imco California warehouse for your dry tails ? Did you notice no one on the board has angle cut tips for sale . :whistle:

I like straight on my boats. now a nother question for me is with my mufflers on my zx do i still need flappers or is that over kill? i dont like the look of them but the pipes are tuching the water when sitting still.

No, CMI told me they only have 2 dealers in the country, I actually talked with one of them over and over and over and was unable to complete an order since it seems that only 1 person at the whole damn place is able to take orders and they are always busy, running errands, or having personal issues.

The other place just plain never got back to me. I ended up buying used tails.

Imco Cali. warehouse will build you anything you need . That is who built the tails for the Gill manifolds on my Warlock . Check out their website . Here's mine , 12 years old .

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...p/100_0349.jpg

My pipes are 1/2 underwater sitting still with nobody in the boat, that is meaningless, it matters what is going on inside your boat more than anything, look at the cluster duck in the previous post...his pipes could be three feet underwater :party-smiley-004:

It's a joke lighten up, I kid I kid, who wouldn't want 3 near 90 degree bends in their exhaust. I have two, why not more :)

As long as there fat I don't thing it's relevant.

I was kidding, I'm not trying to start a fire. Just a spark, it's winter. Besides, I like lego's :D

I will make nice...:angry-smiley-038: Even with my fat azz standing there still not under water....http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...edeep/slap.gifhttp://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...wnload-1-1.jpg This system will soon be replaced with Sport Tubes and dry tails , yes with nice sweeping radius turns . BBC i got your cluster fak right here.... http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...ner_neener.gif

This guy is ok with me. ;)

Just don't put mud flaps on it. I can't stand it when you see a trick boat and they put the cheezy external rubber flappers on them. Most of the time they don't seal anyway, when the boat is shut off, because the exhaust comes out on a downward angle an the flaps hang straight down and leave a gap for water to enter.

Go take a straw, downward at an angle, attach something that hangs like a "mud flap" and suck from the other end...does it seal now? Good.


I don't like the way they look either, though.

Not sure what bearing silent choice would have on the issue, unless you are thinking that the Y-pipes might prevent water from backing up the exhaust if a wake pushes it up the tailpipe. In that case, if it was a big enough wake, I would be concerned that it could still make it's way to the manifolds. I would be curious to know how much this helps.

I like the look of angle cut tips myself. Wish I could find a set of them with switchable mufflers built in. I like the option of making it quiet when I need to, or letting it roar. Still trying to figure out a way to get my Lightning headers to work with a Y-pipe. So far no dice. Lightning makes a set of switchable collectors for their headers with divorced collectors, but they are like $900 - I just don't have that kind of coin laying around. :eek:

Regarding the rubber Salisbury flappers - I think they help some, even when the tips are at an angle and they dangle open slightly. I was watching my buddy's boat that has the flappers on it last summer, and on a small swell just a little bit of water would wash up the exhaust, but not likely enough to overcome the downward angle of the exhaust. When a really big swell would hit the stern, the extra water pressure would push the flappers shut, effectively keeping the wave from washing all the way up the pipe. That being said, a lot of the tips have the internal flappers. I still like the looks of a set of shiny angled tips over the salisbury flappers any day - those things just look like they should be on a mack truck to me. :evilb:

Hay Budman, I've seen some similar to this sell for like $500 used on here http://www.cpperformance.com/c-473-s...silencers.aspx, and who cares about mufflers, you are going to have a cam to look at later today ;)

Yep, there are a couple sets of the Teague switchable tips for sale in Swap Shop that are very similar to those. My problem is that I do not have enough room between inside of my transom and the end of the header collector to use them. My boat was built with a small block, so it has the holes for the exhaust a little closer together - this causes a misalignment with the collectors on my big block exhaust. I may have to just punt and stick with a non-switchable muffler tip, or go to some type of external air actuated switchable tip. Not crazy about the way those look, though, and I wonder how much they actually reduce the sound level.

Got the cam - sure is purty! (in my best Kentucky hillbilly accent)

Thanks!

:hijack:

Ah, I understand. You could always get some slip-ins, that's what I did, I can have them in in no time, and they make a pretty big difference, though the cheap ones I bought do hurt performance to the tune of about 2-3mph. That being said, they sure were easy on the pocketbook! Ironically the performance I lose is remarkably similar to the stock baffles I cut out...

Never could picture how those are installed quickly without pulling risers or exhaust hoses. What holds them in place?

I bought angle cut tips from Keith Eickert. They are made by Hardin, they have internal flappers, they have a screw hole at the bottom so you can add an internal silencer if needed that is simple to install......

That said, I CAN NOT BELIEVE THEY SENT ME USED PARTS!!!! 3 brand new, 1 tip's flapper is a mess, the entire inside of it is full of soot, the outside is scratched and has dirty finger prints all over it.

I called but was told "it is the end of the day, sorry can't help right now, call tomorrow." WTF!?!?!?

Most of the "plain" styles are tapped for it (it's just a set screw), the slip in silencers are contained right in the tip, they don't go back further than that. Look at the bottom of the tip here. http://www.cpperformance.com/p-12591...haust-tip.aspx

Slide in silencer from the outside of the boat, tighten set screw, done. 20 seconds a side...tops. If your boat is in the water this maybe a bit trickier, but on a trailer it's a snap.

FYI I have flush mount tips so I couldn't drill a hole for the set screw (that would be inside the boat) so I tighten the set screw tight and haven't lost one yet, though I'm sure one day I will. I have only used these on smaller lakes not to piss people off....as much at least. And generally don't runt the boat super hard with them, so I don't notice much when used like that, besides that it's quieter. I happened to leave them in on accident once so I figured that was as good a time as any to test it, got a baseline, jumped in the water and pulled them out and went for another WOT run, it's about 3 mph on my gps...

lol that is exactly what is on them and i cant stand it. and u r right they dont close. i dont mind them on my 27 but not on my new boat. so u think with the mufflers i can leave them off?

+5

Did you check with Teague, their usually really good about getting back to you. I just ordered new CMI tails for my sport tubes and got them in a week. Talk to either Bob or Eric

I was sent a used focked up tip by another advertiser here a while back , wasn't even the same length as the good one . How the hell does that happen ? Then to be told can't help right now , dude Stainless Marine makes really nice tips . Send those back and have somebody shove em up der azz . There is NO excuse for treating a customer like that . :angry-smiley-038:

Well, I was able to get through, spent about 35 mins on the phone total. Customer service said "looks like someone pulled a fast one huh".

Then they were NICE enough to send me another tip AFTER I PAID FOR IT??? To be credited after I return the used one. The guy said, "we have no choice but to do it this way to make sure I am honest and don't keep the used one"

I kind of understand but WTF? It is still BS. I have a small parts business and if I have a screw up I get it fixed asap and worry about $$ later.

Yep, know what you mean - I run a website that sells CPAP equipment, and if it's OUR fault, I usually tell them just to keep the wrong item that we sent. Now if they screwed up and ordered the wrong item, a lot of times I will just tell them to order an pay for the correct one, and I will credit them when they send the other product back. But sending out a USED part is bogus to begin with. SMH