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Komo 02-06-2013 04:20 PM

383 Street Engine / balancing issue
 
Hi,
I want to fit two 383 Street Engines ( crate blueprint) in my boat. I know i Need to change the Cam and the Core plugs, but what Happens with the crank balancing ? All Engines are Balanced external. ( flexplate/ balancer) if l Take now my existing balancer and flywheel the balancing is gone.. What is to do? Or is it a misunderstanding on my side?

Thanks for your help

Daniel

boats74 02-06-2013 04:26 PM

Why not spend the extra money for Blueprint's marine engines?

GPM 02-06-2013 04:30 PM

Are the new engines internal or external balance ? You probably want to run stainless head gaskets.

dereknkathy 02-06-2013 04:52 PM

you could buy 400 small block clutch flywheels. repros are pretty cheap. can still find orig ones on ebay-craigs. but truly blueprinted motors are balanced to that wheel, not a generic standard. so, unless you already own these street motors, it doesn't make sense. but if you are using stuff you already have and don't wanna send motors back to be torn down and rebalanced, that would be the way to go. use the balancers that are on the 383's and buy the flywheels.

Komo 02-06-2013 05:44 PM

boats 74: I will spend the extra money but I need the alloy heads to lower the wheight..

Komo 02-06-2013 05:48 PM

dereknkathy: thanks for the help. I`m not sure why Blueprint did not add the parts to the engines if they sell it... The balancer could be find in web but I cannot find a flywheel.. :-(
They advice "This engine requires a 400ci weighted harmonic balancer, and late 350ci weighted flexplate/flywheel."

dereknkathy 02-10-2013 03:02 PM

they are mistaken on the flywheel. look on ebay. put 400 chevy clutch flywheel in the search block.

Trash 02-10-2013 03:18 PM

350's are typically externally balanced. 400's are typically internally balanced.

When going the stroker route (using the 400 crank) it reverts to an internally balanced assembly. You can either buy a 400 flywheel OR have somebody mill the weights off the 350 flywheel.

MESABALANCING 02-11-2013 02:44 PM

balancing
 
My personal experience with the mentioned manufacturer. I had a customer buy two marine 383s received them installed and experienced a vibration on both engines I called the manufacturer and asked what components the customer should use. The answer was suprising to me "I don't know we take the crankshafts out of the box and install them we don't balance them" the person I spoke to identified him as the owner of the company and there was no one else in the technicall department.

Let me explain something to help put this in perspective for people who buy mail order engines. When you buy a balanced rotating assembly and it doesn't include a balancer and flywheel you are not buying a balanced assembly, the components that are bolted to the crankshaft can not be assumed to be balanced, they must be balanced as an assembly and don't let any one tell you you can take any component off of any engine and your balance will be fine this happens at least once a year on oso. The purchase of a marine or performance engine should researched carefully and the customer should visit the engine facility these purchases should never be made blind folded unless you have alot of time and money. Sincerely Laz Mesa
www.mesabalancing.com

GPM 02-11-2013 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Trash (Post 3864792)
350's are typically externally balanced. 400's are typically internally balanced.

When going the stroker route (using the 400 crank) it reverts to an internally balanced assembly. You can either buy a 400 flywheel OR have somebody mill the weights off the 350 flywheel.

That's backwards, 400 sbc is external, 350 is internal balance. A 383 can be either depending on what parts you use.

the deep 02-12-2013 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by GPM (Post 3865366)
That's backwards, 400 sbc is external, 350 is internal balance. A 383 can be either depending on what parts you use.

You are correct . I had stealth balancing done on the front of my stroker crank so i could run a 350ci harmonic ballancer
. Still had to run a 400ci flywheel and you can see they are weighted . They do have a weighted plate that slides over your rear crank bolts meant to be run with the 350ci flywheel but i didn't like that , it's still hangin on the garage wall .

Trash 02-12-2013 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by GPM (Post 3865366)
That's backwards, 400 sbc is external, 350 is internal balance. A 383 can be either depending on what parts you use.

That's what I meant. I had a moment of balance dyslexia.:drink:

the deep 02-12-2013 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Trash (Post 3866270)
That's what I meant. I had a moment of balance dyslexia.:drink:

I have that every now and again but it's alcohol induced . :ernaehrung004:

Trash 02-13-2013 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3866276)
I have that every now and again but it's alcohol induced . :ernaehrung004:

Me too, but I didn't have that excuse this time. :D

Komo 03-02-2013 01:32 AM

Hi,
I have an interally balanced 4340 steel crank ( scat) if this is done I need to use a flywheel which has no wheights. Is it right or did I have a misunderstanding?

motor 03-02-2013 05:41 AM

Correct, If you have an internally balanced motor run a neutral balance flywheel and balancer(no weight).FWIW a 383could be either.


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