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hi-performance 320 EFI
hello new boat owner
Bought a liberator 211 with a merc 320 efi whit alpha drive . and last summer i only got 4200 rpm at wot. have 14.5X21 steel prop. Read that they should rev about 5000-5400 Wot. someone who has experience with this engine, and what can cause these kinds of problems? |
:worthless_without_p Rare bird. I think Sprink has some experience with that motor.
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Originally Posted by Helgealand
(Post 3891624)
hello new boat owner
Bought a liberator 211 with a merc 320 efi whit alpha drive . and last summer i only got 4200 rpm at wot. have 14.5X21 steel prop. Read that they should rev about 5000-5400 Wot. someone who has experience with this engine, and what can cause these kinds of problems? |
Are you having any problems other than low rpm? Liberators are pretty heavy boats if I remember right, If no problems I would try a 17-19 pitch prop. a 19 should put you around 4600 a 17 should put you right around 5000 rpms. Just a thought, Randy
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A 211 should be able to pull a 21 no problem, if it's a known good prop. Do you know the prop is good? My 87' 211 would turn a 21" prop to about 4600, and a 19" close to 5k, which was to high for my motor. This was all with the 350/260 about, 52-53mph. What is the ratio of that drive? That's a great motor and should put you on par with the 454/330.
211's Love the 21" ballistic prop. |
Originally Posted by BBCLiberator
(Post 3892044)
A 211 should be able to pull a 21 no problem, if it's a known good prop. Do you know the prop is good? My 87' 211 would turn a 21" prop to about 4600, and a 19" close to 5k, which was to high for my motor. This was all with the 350/260 about, 52-53mph. What is the ratio of that drive? That's a great motor and should put you on par with the 454/330.
211's Love the 21" ballistic prop. |
Most of the 320EFI packkages that I've sen were fitted with 1.32:1 ratio Alpha drives, hence the 21p prop. Was probably fine for the day but the motor could be very tired by now.
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I had an '86 272 LS Formula with twin 320 EFI's on Alpha SS drives...1.5 ratio. With 23" Cleavers RPM was in the 5800~6000 range!!! One of the fastest boats i ever had. I ran the bejeezus out of those motors and sold the boat with 300 + hours on it. It ran 75 the day I sold it....wish I still had it.
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Originally Posted by sprink58
(Post 3892272)
I had an '86 272 LS Formula with twin 320 EFI's on Alpha SS drives...1.5 ratio. With 23" Cleavers RPM was in the 5800~6000 range!!! One of the fastest boats i ever had. I ran the bejeezus out of those motors and sold the boat with 300 + hours on it. It ran 75 the day I sold it....wish I still had it.
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Originally Posted by Randy Nielsen
(Post 3892234)
Old age must be setting in, I forgot the alphas come in different ratios for 4-6-8 cyl engines. I believe it should be 1.47:1 for a V8 1.6something for a 6 & 1.8 for a 4. That would make a Big difference. Randy
It very well may be a tired old girl. |
Originally Posted by BBCLiberator
(Post 3892310)
Wow, was that stock??? I have a co-worker with an 88 or 89 with 320's and he see's about 65, but no SS alpha's. It's a nice package, to bad it's cost killed it.
Remember...1986...there weren't many Factory Boats that would run 75 MPH. I had a boating friend that had a '86 302 SR-1 with the cut down windshield and bolsters that couldn't get close to my 272 until the seas got to 3~5. I HAD to slow down to about 50 to survive and he could run past me at 65 no problem in the rough stuff with twin 400 horse 454's on TRS Drives. Honestly...those EFI 320's sounded like a Skill Saw cutting through 1/2" plywood at 5500 RPM. Those were the first marine engines I had where you could leave them for two weeks, walk out ,bump the starters and they would fire right up. Twin 320 EFI's with Alpha SS drives were legendary performers. I'm like a kid at Christmas waiting to see how my old '79 255 Formula Liberator is going to compare with twin 400+ Horse Vortec Roller cam Motors on Bravo I's:evilb: |
Awesome! Ss's, why don't we have them again?!
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Originally Posted by BBCLiberator
(Post 3892651)
Awesome! Ss's, why don't we have them again?!
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Engine is renovated by the previous owner in 2008, and the drive gear ratio, I have no idea what is. can i find it somewhere on the drive? ordinary steel propeller that previous owner put on.
only problem is the rev problem and the speed im getting is 49 Mph(gps) |
Poor mans way would be to mark the propshaft then turn the engine over with a socket 1 turn. Thepropshaft should turn approx. 1.5 turns or in sprinks boat it would be 1.3 then you will have an idea where its propped. Randy
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do a compression test 1st...then go from there...
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Determine drive ratio, if it is 1.32, then you need a 19" prop. 49 mph is not far off from typical 350/260, but that engine isn't making peak power at that rpm, a compression check wouldn't hurt either.
EDIT: and throw that aluminum prop in the garbage. |
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