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Front Cylinders not Firing
Motor: 502 with 250 blower and duel Holley 850 carbs
Problem: when I start the motor it runs for about 20 seconds then the front cylinders cut out. I know this because the front headers are cold and the boost gauge needle is shaking back and forth at with little vacuum. If I let it sit 10 min. it starts fine then the same thing over and over. Two week a go it was doing the same thing and finally it started to idle correctly after about 6 starts!! Things I've checked: compression check is good, CMI's don't leak. Things I've swapped with other motor: front carb, ignition system (ignition module, distributor, sensor and coil) and fuel pump. I've noticed a little moisture on one of the front spark plugs and checked the exhaust port at the header and there was about of a spoon full of water. I figured this was reversion from when the cylinders cut out. What could it be? |
it could be those cylinders have the valves adjusted to tight and when the oil pressure pumps the lifter up one of the valves is not seating properly.
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what brand plug wires and how old are they,i have seen msd plug wires cause problems,and cyl 1 and 2 are the longest wires.
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vacuum gauge not steady I would agree with Mike possable valve train issue.
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
(Post 3913926)
what brand plug wires and how old are they,i have seen msd plug wires cause problems,and cyl 1 and 2 are the longest wires.
Why would it idle good at the start and then go bad if it were the wires or plugs? |
Originally Posted by abones
(Post 3913939)
vacuum gauge not steady I would agree with Mike possable valve train issue.
Remember compression is good. |
Originally Posted by Seahawk 2000
(Post 3913873)
Motor: 502 with 250 blower and duel Holley 850 carbs
Problem: when I start the motor it runs for about 20 seconds then the front cylinders cut out. I know this because the front headers are cold and the boost gauge needle is shaking back and forth at with little vacuum. If I let it sit 10 min. it starts fine then the same thing over and over. Two week a go it was doing the same thing and finally it started to idle correctly after about 6 starts!! Things I've checked: compression check is good, CMI's don't leak. Things I've swapped with other motor: front carb, ignition system (ignition module, distributor, sensor and coil) and fuel pump. I've noticed a little moisture on one of the front spark plugs and checked the exhaust port at the header and there was about of a spoon full of water. I figured this was reversion from when the cylinders cut out. What could it be? |
Try running it with the exhaust water supply disconnected and dumping into the bilge. Process of elimination would be my path to glory...good luck
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Vacuum leak? Try forcing choke closed on front carb and see if the fronts start firing again?
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Cracked weld in the header that opens up as it gets warmer?
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Originally Posted by Alex
(Post 3915029)
Cracked weld in the header that opens up as it gets warmer?
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ttt
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Originally Posted by Seahawk 2000
(Post 3915200)
I water pressure tested the header and it seemed to be ok. Could a cracked weld be closed that tight when cold to hold pressure of a garden hose on full blast?
Also the garden hose won't keep up with the volume of the sea pump. |
Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 3916043)
Heat will expand the crack. I would fix the water issue before I would even start worrying about the front cylinders firing. You can cause some sever damage and front cylinders not firing will be the least of your worries. The water is probably the root of your problems.
Also the garden hose won't keep up with the volume of the sea pump. |
That would suck. I just don't want to see you fill up a cylinder and then bend a connecting rod.
Good luck |
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