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Originally Posted by Tinkerer
(Post 3934934)
You have a problem - GET OVER IT. I don't give a dam about YOU - But when You come on here and start calling me names I am going to defend myself.
I would think that if that engine was running with low enough octane or too much advance to do that much damage to one piston it at least would have done some damage to other pistons. Did any eyebrows on other pistons get deformed? What caused just that one piston to melt or detonate like you say? Sounds like the injectors have been checked and it sounds like the ignition was not the problem. did the spark plug come loose. the only one offering an idea that could cause just one cylinder to melt down was my suggestion to look at the header. If you are such an expert than tell us what caused the meltdown on just that ONE cylinder. |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 3936540)
Why not just run a single aeromotive or Weldon pump and eliminate all that poppycock?
Worried about the stock fuel line being able to supply the correct amount of volume to two bosch044 pumps. Surge tank will elimnate this issue. |
Originally Posted by Mtuned
(Post 3936708)
Worried about the stock fuel line being able to supply the correct amount of volume to two bosch044 pumps. Surge tank will elimnate this issue.
Theres a hundred thousand guys on here, who've done what you're doing, with probably 2, or 3 times the power your making. Replace the stock fuel line and pickup with larger lines, run a Aeromotive pump, or other marine style electric pump, call it a day. Unless of course this melted piston thing is up your alley, forget the car stuff for boats. |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 3936831)
Yes, I know what a surge tank is. I can see you're a car guy. A surge tank can help, but its not designed for continuous Full throttle, like a boat does. It can work in a drag race application because theres normally enough fuel stored in the surge tank to complete a pass. Theres no way around it, if you're fuel line is too small, at some point the engine can starve for fuel in a boat..
Theres a hundred thousand guys on here, who've done what you're doing, with probably 2, or 3 times the power your making. Replace the stock fuel line and pickup with larger lines, run a Aeromotive pump, or other marine style electric pump, call it a day. Unless of course this melted piston thing is up your alley, forget the car stuff for boats. |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 3936831)
Yes, I know what a surge tank is. I can see you're a car guy. A surge tank can help, but its not designed for continuous Full throttle, like a boat does. It can work in a drag race application because theres normally enough fuel stored in the surge tank to complete a pass. Theres no way around it, if you're fuel line is too small, at some point the engine can starve for fuel in a boat..
Theres a hundred thousand guys on here, who've done what you're doing, with probably 2, or 3 times the power your making. Replace the stock fuel line and pickup with larger lines, run a Aeromotive pump, or other marine style electric pump, call it a day. Unless of course this melted piston thing is up your alley, forget the car stuff for boats. |
We use surge tanks in alot of road race applications. Not sure of you guys are aware that the RETURN line from the fuel system is also plummed back into a surge tank to function properly. So any excess fuel the regulator bleeds off will also fill back the surge tank, once the surge tank if full it bleeds back into the fuel cell...
Either way, i am certain you guys are correct that i can work around the stock feed line just fine. Its just the factory line on my boat and fittings were very small. Thanks for the advise, I guess i will just go with a single weldon fuel pump and call it a day. I am trying to plan the fuel system to be able to support large demand, as I will be tuning it on E85 at some point with much larger injectors. |
Full force - Yes I know that some cylinders run hotter than others. That is why I have my EGT probes in the header for #6. BUT I have run a little too lean and done damage to one or two pistons - BUT - To completely destroy one piston I would think there would be SOME damage to another. If there was a bad injector or blocked fuel line I could see it. But that was ruled out and the electronics I believe was ruled out.
If it was timing then again I would expect damage on another cylinder. I would have thought there would have been at least one eyebrow deformed. Is it possible that that cylinder had more compression than the others? Less Quench? Loose spark plug? |
Originally Posted by Mtuned
(Post 3937096)
We use surge tanks in alot of road race applications. Not sure of you guys are aware that the RETURN line from the fuel system is also plummed back into a surge tank to function properly. So any excess fuel the regulator bleeds off will also fill back the surge tank, once the surge tank if full it bleeds back into the fuel cell...
Either way, i am certain you guys are correct that i can work around the stock feed line just fine. Its just the factory line on my boat and fittings were very small. Thanks for the advise, I guess i will just go with a single weldon fuel pump and call it a day. I am trying to plan the fuel system to be able to support large demand, as I will be tuning it on E85 at some point with much larger injectors. |
Originally Posted by Tinkerer
(Post 3937111)
Full force - Yes I know that some cylinders run hotter than others. That is why I have my EGT probes in the header for #6. BUT I have run a little too lean and done damage to one or two pistons - BUT - To completely destroy one piston I would think there would be SOME damage to another. If there was a bad injector or blocked fuel line I could see it. But that was ruled out and the electronics I believe was ruled out.
If it was timing then again I would expect damage on another cylinder. I would have thought there would have been at least one eyebrow deformed. Is it possible that that cylinder had more compression than the others? Less Quench? Loose spark plug? |
I would be interested in seeing the spark plug from that Cyl. It should be able to tell us something,
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