The prob was the accelerator pump rod fell off onto the intake, when ti started it died i cranked it over and over , thinking it flooded , push the throttle all the way forward to clear it out(which it wasnt flooded) to have it spit back and break the starter and chip some teeth. No water in the cylinder , just a mess up by me .

Ouch! But good you have problem definition. Good luck with it.

don't think that was the cause....

i know that was the cause, i will have it running this weekend and be back at the lake next weekend.

johnny,this is good advice and will not take a lot of time to do,i highly reccomend doing it for peace of mind if nothing else.

I pulled the plug and headers no water, I know what happened when I shimmed the starter I stripped it thinking it would be ok, well not I should had waited till the next morning and got the correct one, if so I wouldn't be working on it today. I will post a pic of the starter and it will tell the story.

here is a pic

unless you can get at the transom side of the flywheel i would not use that kind of starter,,it will break the flywheel everytime if the teeth are not shimmed correctly....use a mini high torque starter with a nose cone..

you need a decent gear reduction starter with enough torque to handle the engine, powermaster, MSD, etc...

I just pulled the engine and changed the ring gear, put 2 new gm gear reduction starters on, im wore out , will finish it in the next few days the engine is back in the hole all bolted down got some wires and the headers to put back on.