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F35008 08-19-2013 09:19 PM

2001 500 EFI oil overheating
 
I have that 500 EFI in a 2001 fountain 29, the oil is overheating really quickly, even cruising at 3500 rpm, the gauge will reach 250 so as soon as I go WOT it goes over 260 and the light come on. Now I did cleaned up the oil cooler, nothing changed. I did bypassed the fuel pump cooler so the fresh water goes directly from the fresh water pump to the oil cooler, no change. Now I don't know where to look anymore, oil pressure is good, the motor doesn't overheat at all. What next??? and it seem to get worst as I use the boat trough out the summer.

RT930turbo 08-19-2013 10:09 PM

Have you verified the oil is actually overheating? Are you sure you don't have a gauge problem? With pressures and water temps normal, I'd rule out the gauge first.

vettex1 08-20-2013 11:44 AM

Thermostat in oil cooler

TWIN-SPINS 08-20-2013 11:48 AM

backflush oil cooler also

1MOSES1 08-20-2013 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by vettex1 (Post 3980004)
Thermostat in oil cooler

im not expert but...is the merc smartcraft buzzer going off? if not, its likely a bad sending unit or bad guage. if thats the case, your engine oil temp is actually normal but gauge is reading incorrect.

if you have ruled both of those out...agree with vettex, might be thermostat in oil cooler.

Alex 08-21-2013 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 3980006)
im not expert but...is the merc smartcraft buzzer going off? if not, its likely a bad sending unit or bad guage. if thats the case, your engine oil temp is actually normal but gauge is reading incorrect.

if you have ruled both of those out...agree with vettex, might be thermostat in oil cooler.

The HP500 EFI is not a SmartCraft motor. It has the MEFI3 ECM and the oil temp sender does not feed any logics, only the gauge.

I would recommend confirming the temp and if confirmed high I would check the thermostat.

F35008 08-21-2013 03:42 PM

I didn't know that there was a thermostat for oil!! I just found out the location on the schematic. I will do the gauge check first and if nothing change I will change the thermostat. Pretty sure it's the thermostat, I did touch the cooler when the gauge was showing over heating and you could not leave your hand on that for 1 sec. Thanks for the info guy's!! really appreciated.

45SS 08-21-2013 05:44 PM

You can use an infared hand held and shoot the oil lines and oil filter. You do have an oil thermostat, it is mounted in a housing where the oil filter would be on a stock block Chevy. You can pull the ends off of your oil cooler to see if it is clogged. We run in mud slit bottom river, we need to clean ours on occasion.

Unlimited jd 08-21-2013 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by 45SS (Post 3980981)
You can use an infared hand held and shoot the oil lines and oil filter. You do have an oil thermostat, it is mounted in a housing where the oil filter would be on a stock block Chevy. You can pull the ends off of your oil cooler to see if it is clogged. We run in mud slit bottom river, we need to clean ours on occasion.

The thermostat is in the oil filter housing mounted to the 1-7 bank head. It's not in the adapter on the block pad

F35008 08-21-2013 06:20 PM

This is what I found on the schematic and this is how it is on my engine : number 17.... http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Me...ne)/parts.html

seems to me that it is in the housing where the oil filter would be on a stock block

Unlimited jd 08-21-2013 06:30 PM

Sorry thought it had the same setup as an hp 500, which by that picture it is not.

F35008 07-16-2017 10:00 AM

Hi all,

I can't locate the oil temperature sensor on the block. Any ideas where it is?

Smitty 07-16-2017 11:02 AM

It should be right above the filter pad on the block. Mine is in a t-fitting with the oil pressure sender for the gauge.

Also, I had an oil filter bypass valve get stuck partially open. It is pressed into the block above where the filter would mount to the engine. Because it was slightly open, it would let some oil bypass the oil cooler and filter. I ended up pulling the engine to find it. It also made my oil much darker faster, so see if you have the same issue that way.

F35008 07-17-2017 08:15 PM

There is 2 sensors above where the filter would go originally on the block, the oil pressure sensor and the alarm sensor. These motors should be all the same no?? Its in a 2001 Fountain 29. We can't locate it at all. There is no sensor on the remote filter mount either. Where else could it be?

Griff 07-17-2017 08:50 PM

Oil temp sender is not a Merc factory installed sender on a 500EFI. Not sure where Fountain would have installed it.

mike tkach 07-17-2017 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by F35008 (Post 3981003)
This is what I found on the schematic and this is how it is on my engine : number 17.... 500 EFI Mercury Racing Sterndrive 0M905089 THRU 0M907127 Oil Cooler And Oil Filter(Engine) Diagram and Parts

seems to me that it is in the housing where the oil filter would be on a stock block

the schematic is correct for a 2001 hp 500 efi.

F35008 07-24-2017 08:22 PM

Ok, we found the problem. The oil thermostat is not opening when inside the casing. We tried it while it was in and nothing moved and we pulled it out and it opened up. This is also a brand new thermostat kit that I put in last year. It seems that it might bite inside the casing and can't open. Can I just remove it completely? Will the oil still go through the filter if I do? Otherwise i might have to buy a new filter relocator housing. First option would be a quick fix for the rest of the summer...


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