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ba3367 09-14-2013 12:15 PM

Boost retard
 
How important is boost retard with only a maximum of 4 lbs boost? Im trying to keep my octane in the 90's for this reason and have no noticeable signs of detonation.

GPM 09-14-2013 03:50 PM

How important are melted pistons and blown head gaskets, what is the timing set at now, what compression ratio, what head material, what cam, is there an intercooler, need a little more info.

ba3367 09-14-2013 06:52 PM

I just bought this boat less than a month ago. Don't know a whole lot about the motor. What I can tell you is no inter cooler, cast heads, 34 degrees full advance, roller cam ( lift n duration unknown). Working on getting more info on the engine build but no luck yet.

GPM 09-14-2013 07:13 PM

I'm not an engine builder, just thinking 34 might be best suited for an N/A motor, what's the water temp when it's warmed up and running wide open.

ba3367 09-14-2013 07:21 PM

About 180 degrees and it is a carbureted ( n/a ) motor.

Unlimited jd 09-14-2013 07:24 PM

If its less than 8:1 compression with a specific blower cam, and an appropriately sized blower, I'd drop it to 32 and leave it. No need for boost retard. In fact lowering timing too far is more dangerous.

Griff 09-14-2013 07:32 PM

If it hasn't blown up yet, chances are it won't. I might think about dropping the timing back to 32*, but without knowing more about the engine specs, its hard to say for sure.

proboat-wes 09-14-2013 07:44 PM

having built quite a few blower motors,its of my opinion to keep timing at 30 degrees and 93 octane

GPM 09-14-2013 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=ba3367;3995960]About 180 degrees and it is a carbureted ( n/a ) motor.[/QUO
I'm confused N/A or blower with 4psi

ba3367 09-14-2013 07:57 PM

Well it's my understanding they the motor was built specifically for the weiand 177 application but unless I can get the build specs I'm kinda in the dark unless I do a tear down and I don't know that it's worth all that without an eminent issue. Off that subject how do I attach images from my iPhone photo library?

ba3367 09-14-2013 08:14 PM

I'm sorry. My bad GPM. I thought u were thinking it was injected.

ba3367 09-14-2013 08:25 PM

I'm sorry. My bad GPM. I thought u were thinking it was an injected motor.

GPM 09-14-2013 10:33 PM

No problem, 180 seems warm for a blower motor with cast iron heads, plus 34 degrees of timing, I can't imagine the head gaskets lasting to long, but I could be wrong. Compression and cam would probably dictate the end result.

Griff 09-15-2013 01:10 AM

Without knowing static comp ratio, its hard to give you advice.
If its been built as a basically a 525SC clone, then no worries unless they bumped the static comp ratio to much more than 8.5.
The 525SC runs 5.5 lbs of boost and 35* of total timing with 7.5 CR. I ran my 525SC at almost 8lbs with 35* and 92-93 octane and never had any issue.

I agree that you should try and get the water temp down to around 140-150*.at least.

ba3367 09-15-2013 08:25 AM

Ok Griff I'm gonna throw a stupid ? At ya. How the heck do u lower your water temp?

Payton 09-15-2013 08:47 AM

Check what thermostat is in it.

ba3367 09-15-2013 09:08 AM

Easy enough. Lol

Griff 09-15-2013 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by ba3367 (Post 3996120)
Ok Griff I'm gonna throw a stupid ? At ya. How the heck do u lower your water temp?

The stock thermostat for Merc carbed engines 140*. It should stay under 150* with one.
There are also some aftermarket 120* Tstats.


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