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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4030382)
M3 procharger all the way with that kinda motor. I've never ran e85 but I can tell you from being around alot of blown alcohol motors that alcohol does not get along with aluminum. If you let it sit in an aluminum pan it will eat a hole through it. I'd be afraid of it eating a hole in gas tank. And the fact that its gonna use alot more fuel also...
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He may be thinking of Methanol rather than Ethanol for corrosion. You will use about 32% more fuel when running E85 vs Gas, but at $3.50 a gallon it seems to be worth it.
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Originally Posted by rob vanharten
(Post 4030389)
I have had a piece of aluminum sitting in a cup of e85 for a year now testing this theory. Absolutely no effect on the aluminum thus far.......?
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Originally Posted by Tinkerer
(Post 4030336)
So if instead I went with a supercharger.
Lets say I buy a blower, intercooler and FAST fuel injection that I can put on my existing 509engine, 10 to 1 compression, crane 741? hyd. roller cam, pistons are zero decked, Pro 1 heads that were reworked by Jim Valakeo. Thinking with the compression I should be safe to run E85 even with the blower. Later I build a new bottom end that can handle much more HP and bolt my heads, blower and fuel injection to it. Will the FAST fuel injection system work well with a blower and E85? What blower would you suggest? http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o54277-en.html |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4030509)
Just throwing an idea out there. What if you were to strip down your current shortblock. Install some blower pistons. Grab that B&M 420 in the classifieds with the whipple intercooler for 2500 bucks, run your 741 cam and valako prepped pro 1 heads. On 92 octane, 8psi, you should have no issues making 900HP. Total cost, under 5 grand. That blower is a smoking deal. The intercooler is prob worth what he wants for the whole setup.
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Air packer on her (god rest his soul) had that exact combo. 900hp at 6000
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4030509)
Just throwing an idea out there. What if you were to strip down your current shortblock. Install some blower pistons. Grab that B&M 420 in the classifieds with the whipple intercooler for 2500 bucks, run your 741 cam and valako prepped pro 1 heads. On 92 octane, 8psi, you should have no issues making 900HP. Total cost, under 5 grand. That blower is a smoking deal. The intercooler is prob worth what he wants for the whole setup.
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Originally Posted by DirtyJohnson
(Post 4030626)
that is an insane deal. I would make sure the blower is tight and send it to the blower shop for seals, bearings and strips for about another ~$500 investment and peace of mind.
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I was going to start a thread myself on this topic. I'm looking to upgrade to a bigger boat and I want a minimum of 800hp ea and would like to stay away from a blower. I was considering a 572 with some custom heads, 10:1 compression, tunnel ram, solid cam, and lightning headers. I didn't consider dry sump although I have thought about using extractors to reduce crankcase pressure or even a vacuum pump. I currently have a 524 running just shy of 700 with a hydraulic roller cam at .623/.612 lift and 242/252 duration at .050". It took every bit of tweaking to get that, I know the stretch to 800 and still have drive ability is going to be tough, but I really like the rumpity rump of a big cam. I checked out AFR's heads, I currently have the 315's, while AFR makes a bigger port, they don't flow more than the 315 until they hit .700 lift and they all flow worse below .500. Anybody have any recommendations on heads that flow really well from .200 to .700?
Haxby, some of the new throttle bodies say they will support 900hp but require 9" of vacuum to function properly. I have been thinking about using throttle bodies on a tunnel ram to make more power through more complete atomization. What are your thoughts? |
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Blower with small boost is better on the drive train. Easier to make Horsepower. Mild Boost engines last along time. Mercury has been spinning blowers for years and they have the R&D to prove it. Just easier to make reliable, cost effective horsepower. Seems like once you go above 700HP NA, its time to start Blowing
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