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Lunati has this one. Looks interesting. How would it very from say the 212/218 @.050 112 LSA
Hydraulic Roller. Good idle. Largest cam recommended for power brakes. Stage 2 cam, excellent street performance and off road use. •Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 284/284 •Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 218/218 •Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .492/.492 •LSA/ICL: 112/106 •Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd •RPM Range: Idle-5500 •Includes: Cam Only |
I have been told by other Glastron gs205 owners that their boats will hit 50 mph with stock 305 engines. Is that about what I can expect with the 383 and duo prop Volvo penta in mine?
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Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4087882)
Going to A 114lsa cam in a small block makes it lazy.
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Okay, I called Lunati and asked about the single pattern cam I had posted and they highly recommended the 211/219 @112 and said it works really well. I guess I'm down to that cam or the comp 264 which has nearly the same specs. Again, what kind of top rpm's can I expect from the comp 264 in my 383 with better flowing GLM manifolds and would it be of any benefit to go with stainless risers over stock risers?
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A 264 cam will be too small. i have a 262 cam in my 355, and thats too small.
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[QUOTE=38special;4088576]Okay, I called Lunati and asked about the single pattern cam I had posted and they highly recommended the 211/219 @112 and said it works really well. I guess I'm down to that cam or the comp 264 which has nearly the same specs. Again, what kind of top rpm's can I expect from the comp 264 in my 383
Still dead at 4000rpm |
Originally Posted by Trash
(Post 4088542)
That is a blanket statement not completely truthful. There are many other variables that come into play when choosing the LSA etc. A 114 LSA does not, in and of itself, make the motor lazy.
Edit in: But not too bad for a blanket statement. LOL. |
I think this cam from Summit has the same spec as the cam in the 6.2 MX merc engine
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crn-104224 |
Originally Posted by 38special
(Post 4088576)
Okay, I called Lunati and asked about the single pattern cam I had posted and they highly recommended the 211/219 @112 and said it works really well. I guess I'm down to that cam or the comp 264 which has nearly the same specs. Again, what kind of top rpm's can I expect from the comp 264 in my 383 with better flowing GLM manifolds and would it be of any benefit to go with stainless risers over stock risers?
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Originally Posted by ACrooks69
(Post 4088926)
5100-5200 rpm, been there done that. Oh wait, the XM on the 112 will be 100rpm lower. 51-5200 is for the 110 street grind. The XM276 was 54-5500. All for a 383.
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Make it simple and call Bob Madera at Marine Kinetics. He nailed exactly what I wanted and gave me a no BS expectation for performance.
You can tell he lives for this stuff and knows exactly what to do considering whatever goals you have. |
Originally Posted by Captain YARRR
(Post 4089626)
Make it simple and call Bob Madera at Marine Kinetics. He nailed exactly what I wanted and gave me a no BS expectation for performance.
You can tell he lives for this stuff and knows exactly what to do considering whatever goals you have. |
That suks. Sounds like time to sit back and wait...but that's personal advice which you are not asking for and we should not give out.
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[QUOTE=38special;4090162]That was the plan to start with but sometimes you have to change plans. After making the auto and property insurance payment yesterday I came up short of having enough to even buy the 350 hp cam
Just curious, what are the specs on the 350hp cam |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4090705)
That suks. Sounds like time to sit back and wait...but that's personal advice which you are not asking for and we should not give out.
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Originally Posted by GPM
(Post 4090712)
Just curious, what are the specs on the 350hp cam
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It's not that important.
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Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4083870)
Sure. I'll take a stab it.
It will be much faster if you're wife is driving it. |
Originally Posted by bobl
(Post 4086021)
Just for FYI on this discussion. I just finished dynoing another 6.2 build. It's an early model 6.2 with the 4 bbl type intake. I rebuilt it with forged pistons. Raised the compression to around 9.8. Minor bowl work on the Vortec heads. We used a Comp 270 hydraulic roller. Stock exhaust with stainless replacement risers. It made 380 HP at 5700 RPM, and over 370 from 5200 on up. Torque was 423 at 3900 RPM.That leaves a 500 RPM window from 5200-5700 where the power is pretty much flat. So as with many other 6.2's I've done, that head, cam and exhaust package works really well but pretty much hit it's limit by 5400 RPM, but if you want to turn more rpm it doesn't completely just die, just no real benefit.
Hope this helps, Bob Lloyd Full Throttle Marine Bobl, I have been reading about your great success with the 6.2s for quite some time, and have a question. The build that you speak about above , was the original efi kept , and if so, did it have to be sent off? Also I have a 98 6.2 with the 90mm throttle body and mefi3, would mine be considered the early model with the good intake .? Thanks so much for the advice |
[QUOTE=01Sea;4139999]Bobl, I have been reading about your great success with the 6.2s for quite some time, and have a question. The build that you speak about above , was the original efi kept , and if so, did it have to be sent off? Also I have a 98 6.2 with the 90mm throttle body and mefi3, would mine be considered the early model with the good intake .? Thanks so much for the advice[/QUOT
Yes, yours is a much better candidate.. A good efi intake would still help, just adapt the throttle body to it.The mefi 3 makes it a lot easier to tune. A lot of people can tune them. Bob |
I gotchya. Thanks for getting back to me.
Nic |
The cam that spectras only gave the link for is the stock 6.2 cam. With about 3/4 tank of fuel and just me onboard the engines will pull 5300 r.p.m.s which I believe is just under the limiter.
Cam: .452/.465 lift, 214/220 @.050 duration (Same as CRANE 2032) Rpm range 2000-5500. This appears to be close to the maximum lift on Vortex heads unless you replace springs, retainers, and cut down the valve guides. |
I called Bob Madera and talked with him one last time and he was good enough to offer to let me make several payments if I did end up having him grind a cam. He was up front with me on what to expect for power with out investing in a better exhaust which I don't have funds for at this time. I ended up choosing a Lunati cam. I found this next bit of info on another forum comparing the Lunati I went with to a comp cams grind.
[QUOTEThe one I remember dynoing was the VooDoo 60120, the 262/270 cam vs the Xtreme Energy 264HR. The VooDoo was 211/219 at .050, the 264HR was 212/218. The VooDoo lift was a little higher, and LSA was 112 vs 110. From 5000 to 5600 the VooDoo averaged 10 BHP higher that the 264HR. From 3200 to 4200 the VooDoo averaged 8 ftlbs torque higher that the 264HR. But the best news was at 2500, where the VooDoo had 30 ftlbs torque MORE than the 264HR. It was 20 ftlbs more at 2800, and 3" more vacuum at idle. With 9:1 CR, the 270 VooDoo is as big as I would run, and it works with 3.23 RAR. Computer simulation programs assume that all cams flow air the same way, but they do not. If they did, one company's 300*, .500" lift cam would make power like another's. They don't. A computer simulation program that gave an accurate Horsepower/torque curve would be similar to those used by the major car manufacturers, and would require the exact cam/valve lift curves, not just a couple of numbers. UDHarold ][/QUOTE] |
That was very noble of him.
From one biz owner (myself) to another (him) - that should never happen. I would love to trust everyone who walked thru my door or called me, but if I did, I would have been out of business and on the street along time ago. |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4152860)
That was very noble of him.
From one biz owner (myself) to another (him) - that should never happen. I would love to trust everyone who walked thru my door or called me, but if I did, I would have been out of business and on the street along time ago. |
thank you for the help
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