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sprink58 03-03-2014 05:05 PM

Any time you truthfully reveal what you have done...there are always critics. Bottom line...all things considered I'm happy with what I have and it performs very well.

SB 03-03-2014 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 4083823)
Interesting setup, it's similar to what I put together in some aspects.

Anyone care to guess what it will make? Below are specs;

Sure. I'll take a stab it.

It will be much faster if you're wife is driving it.

Trash 03-03-2014 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by 38special (Post 4083514)
A lot of useful information from all of you, thanks. Is your engine loud all the time? I'd love to hear the engine loud but not all the time. I'm pretty green on terminology but could I run a cam like the 276 comp and quiet the engine when wanted or is that getting into a lot of expense? I need to get this project done before my 12 and 14 year olds are grown. My old job is gone that let me spend what ever I wanted on toys and I'm tempted to buy a mild hyd roller just to get it done and get everyone out fishing and skiing. It just seems a shame as well built as the motor is.

Loud is a relative term. Several factors come into play with 'loudness' in my boat. If the bimini top is up the boat is perceived to be louder inside the boat since the sound waves are bouncing off the water, up and into the bimini top reflected inside. Obviously the true dB reading aft of the boat remains virtually unchanged. I don't have readings for the current motor, but stock Merc 350 Mag with Rex Marine Sound Selector system was about 82 dB at idle, cutouts closed and if I remember about 86 dB with the cutouts open. New motor has more bark, but I haven't pulled the meter out to measure it and I only have straight through hull.

I can, and have run inline silencers and they do cut the dB by about 6-8 but also choke down the top end rpm by 300-500 so I almost always leave them out. With a milder cam you may not have that problem. There are several exhaust cut-out systems available which can also give you some sound options, but they should be avoided when cams get more aggressive since the butterfly valves diverting the exhaust down the Y-pipe when running closed can exacerbate potential reversion issues with performance cams. They also add expense. $600-800 just for the system, not including additional exhaust hose, thru hull tips, and the labor required to cut the holes.

To answer your question, I would be hesitant to run the Comp 276 with a diverter type exhaust system.

Panther 03-03-2014 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4083870)
Sure. I'll take a stab it.

It will be much faster if you're wife is driving it.

Definitely faster when the wife drives it. After all, this one is hers.

38special 03-04-2014 01:42 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4083800)
FYI:
I did a top end on a high hour 350 Mag (260HP) in a 20ft boat (really 19ft) and about 2800lbs.
218/224 at .050" / 113LSA Comp Extreme EFI HR cam
180cc heads
Weiand Air Strike (like the Eddy Air Gap)
650 Vac BG Carb
Eddie Marine Exhaust Manifolds (already on boat)
Merc Alpha Outdrive

15mph increase was result. NO BS. I'm intimate with that boat. LOL.

It's also an animal planing if at WOT - so....that needs to be held back to take care of outdrive.

Reason why I mention above is that you have same size and near same weight boat + a bigger engine. Heads are pretty much the same performance wise.

So, even if you go a little smaller on cam, it should still be an animal compared to whatever was stock. Just remember what we said top rpm will be as far as best speed. That 212 at .050" cam from Comp will probably be 4600 rpm.

That does sound like my boat. The 305 was missing when I bought the boat but most everything was still in it. I guess for the time being i'll look for a cam that is a step above what would have been in a 5.7 I can swap later if I still want. What kind of HP is a sx cobra duo prop good for? Am I going the wrong direction again thinking about comps XM270 ? Advertised at 5200rpm or is it doable through the stock leg?

CC230 03-04-2014 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 4083834)
Any time you truthfully reveal what you have done...there are always critics. Bottom line...all things considered I'm happy with what I have and it performs very well.

Exactly. As long as your happy that's all that counts.

38special 03-04-2014 11:09 AM

Is this cam doable in my 383 exhausting through the stock leg and would it actually reach the advertised rpm? What kind of hp and tq numbers could I expect from it?

Lunati 20080720 (Formerly Part Number 60120) Chevrolet Small Block LT1, LT4, & 1987-Present Hydraulic Roller Voodoo Camshaft RPM Range 1600 - 5600 Lift .507"/.515" [email protected] 211/219 LSA/IAC 112/106
Excellent choice for stock to mildly modified engines, works well with OEM style injection, great inboard/outboard marine cam for economy and sking. Good mileage and torque increase.



RPM Range: 1600 - 5600
Lift with 1.6 Rocker: .507"/.515"
Duration @ .050": 211/219
Advertised Duration: 262/270
LSA/IAC: 112/106
Valve Lash: Hyd/Hyd
Cam & Lifter Kit: 20080720LK
Complete Kit: 20080720K
Lifters: 72910-16
Springs: 73943-16
Retainers: 75742-16
Locks: 77003-16
Valve Spring Kit: 73943K1
Valve Seals: 78501-16
Timing Set: 93026
Pushrods: 5040-16
Rocker Arms: 85340-16

rmbuilder 03-04-2014 12:07 PM

38
You will likely incur pumping losses (both intake and exhaust) that will inhibit you from reaching 5600 RPM. It will be beneficial to address your exhaust lobe due to the downstream restriction the log manifolds present. The displacement has increased ~9% from the original spec, increasing the spent charge proportionally. I would suggest increasing intake duration, reducing your exhaust bias (from the new intake lobe) to: (1º-4º) It will also benefit you to pay close attention to your ECL.

Bob

38special 03-04-2014 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by rmbuilder (Post 4084286)
38
You will likely incur pumping losses (both intake and exhaust) that will inhibit you from reaching 5600 RPM. It will be beneficial to address your exhaust lobe due to the downstream restriction the log manifolds present. The displacement has increased ~9% from the original spec, increasing the spent charge proportionally. I would suggest increasing intake duration, reducing your exhaust bias (from the new intake lobe) to: (1º-4º) It will also benefit you to pay close attention to your ECL.

Bob

If I give ya a hundred down would you help make this problem go away rmbuilder?:D

Or suggest an off the shelf cam that will let me get the most from this 383 that I can exhausting through the stock leg?

38special 03-05-2014 12:37 PM

I have been offered a brand new hyd roller cam and roller lifters a long with new roller rocker arms, chain and gears. valve springs push rods from a 325 HP 5.7 mercruiser that is being reworked for opposite rotation. He is asking $375 for everything. I can't hardly turn that down. Will my 383 gain or lose running that hyd roller cam? Pretty sure he said it was a duel pattern cam. He also said the cam is a 5,000rpm cam. Everything is for my same year engine, a 98.


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