Yes they CP / Hardin has that since 2011 for sale if not a tad longer. I do not know any longevity / results of that system they are selling so I can not comment for that cat eliminator.

For the record I can not do that install nor remove the cats FROM a EC engine. EC = emission control. The reasons why is because all that is federal mandated and I hold a couple of LIC and Marine dealer LIC and even a boat builder LIC.

Kind of the same results as a auto dealer LIC removing a cat from a state register auto thats street driven -- its a huge fine and can mean any LIC pulled. I am not risking any of that. UNLESS the original app is over 500 hp from OEM stock build then I can do it.

See the first thing when a OEM dealer repowers a boat using OEM engines and related parts - that OEM wants HULL ID and engine serial number. That OEM will and can only sell you the required federal law engines if its a EC engine from the start / when it was a new built boat. You have to provide a hull ID to get OEM engines for the past 9 years now, If one does not provide an hull for a repower - one does not get that OEM engine. Just saying. Things changed 9 years ago for all marine engines under 500 hp actually for all boats.

I have a story and I think it came from advice on wakeworld from a fellow wakeboard owner. He brought his boat in a month ago to me and self inflicted about 7 k worth of damage on his CAT engine / wake boat. One has to watch out for the advice one receives. There is good advice and really bad advice out there for the taking. Just saying.

Why remove the cats - ? There is no power gain there - cars with 600 hp and way above have cats with no power loss plus if you board or surf behind the boat U WANT CATS. You are not sucking down as much of the harmful emissions then. Thats the reason they are in place for health concern for boarders cause people have died in the past from the toxic emissions. Why do you think all wake board boats since basically 2006 have cats ?? when they were not even federal mandated ? Cleaner air behind the boat so people can play and the manu s do not have more lawsuits from emission related deaths.

Also so much easier working on boats from a health stand point with cats. At the end of the day easier on lungs if you know what I mean

IF YOU HAVE KIDS whom board or play behind the boat LEAVE THE CATS installed. I promise

the listing for race apps on the CAT eliminator is so CARB and Emission laws do not get on the sellers nor manu back causing them to not sell it nor fines. Kind of like the surgeon general that stamps all boxes of cigs stating they cause cancer but still allows the sales of them for making my point.

The eliminator is going to do ZERO anything for u leaving the cats in there trying to fix real issues that the engine side is producing. That set up the cat eliminator is for one is whom wants to remover the cats that has a perfect running engine or issue with the cats themselves only.

Take your boat in to a real shop to get it fixed and have them run the engine serial number for possible recals and updates and service bulletins to further correct procedure whatever applies to your engine and manu date code / serial number.

Wake world is not not a boat repair facility along with the many darts thrown for ur issues. I doubt that 99.99 percent people on most public forums even know any current fault codes onan EC marine engine . Also Diacom is not the best scan tool to use for Mercruiser EC engines especially with DTS. Yes currently Diacom got G3 updated but still Merc g3 scan scan tool is the best for MERC cat engines especially if one has DTS cats

Are you saying you have FAULT CODES 48 and 50 ???

I do not recall any 48 or 50 Fault ID codes for Merc cat PCM 09 or Merc PCM 112 based control engines. Are you sure you have the most current scan tool thats up to date for Merc cat engines ? I do recall fault ID # 49 and # 51 but IF I recall correctly 48 and 50 Fault ID codes is not real fault codes for Merc cat engines. G3 codes for Merc ?

With that said I am going off the top of my head but do not remember 48 and 50 fault ID codes ever period. I would have to look that up to be 100 percent sure but I am 98 percent sure they 48 / 50 are not faults. I do not have any of that info handy currently to make sure I am 100 percent correct.

With that said you have 48 and 50 fault ID codes ?? or am I misreading your post above ?

he reported it cured it for now but in the spring will know more with more run times as how I took his post.. most of the time something is causing the o2 to possible fail -- not the o2 just failing because. Yes that can happen as well. but the odds are something is causing the o2 fail. Read post 23 and 33 of mine...... also connections / harnesses as well can be in the mix

Bingo YES like i said if you have some of those set ups installed then a fault is NOT normal. EXample if you have DTS and steering angle then you have steering position --- if you DO NOT have steering angle then that fault will show on certain models. There was time down the road the NON install set ups did not show codes. Want to say late 2000 s. They defaulted but not to a fault code.

^^^^^^^ Related to the post above # 50 ^^^^^^^

RICH CONDITIONS

Yes if the poppet is not working correctly allows to much water thru at idle and tad above. Also a bad O2 sensor or one that is not reporting correctly.

a T stat not working correctly also

the coolant temp sensor

a cold running engine makes for rich conditions

also the MAP sensor can make rich running engine.

Also ignition components and spark plugs can make for rich conditions -- misfires and or weak or bad ign. parts.

fuel injectors leaking or stuck open - also incorrect signals for injector pulse width - that can even be voltage related.

An issue with the o2 surely can

I thought you scanned the engine for the codes - using diacom

Told you as a real SCAN of the engine you were not going to SEE Fault ID # 48 and # 50 nor ever will. I was 98 percent sure of that one in my post above. Like I said I thought you already scanned it with your diacom. YOU HAVE NOW.

the scan / faults all read if one is / facing the front of the engine. The engine and ECM has no idea how the engine is facing - heck even if it was upside down - that still applies the same, -- heck I scan engines on engine stands and spin that engine stand 180 and all over the place, nothing changes. Just saying

Last time out in Oct, boat was fine. Fired her up on the trailer today, and have an active fault.

2007 525efi, port active fault: "trim ckt lo"

any ideas?
thx!

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you have to post your engine serial NUMBER to get correct info.

All codes are related to ones set up .

For Ghost codes they are related to not having that sensor . and or connection / connected / app in the set up so it defaults to a code. This is why one needs to know their set up and engine serial number, This helps knowing if its a real code or a ghost code persay..

Also any OEM Merc dealer could look at this for you as well.

Wish I was closer to you BUP, would have you handle everything. My buddy speaks highly of your work. For the engine with related code, its OM956832. Thanks.

Thanks for the good words. Im always just one road trip away but by appointment only. I always have boats in from all over and at times completely covered up. . Anyways for this exact fault code there should be NO guardian. The fault itself TRIM CKT LO = TRIM SENSOR CIRCUIT LOW = trim circuit open and that can = sensor issue and or wire issue and or connection issue..

How are you seeing this fault -- scan tool or smartcraft display ?? If scan tool what brand of scan tool ?

Im seeing the code via SmartCraft display. Again, just on trailer. Have not run boat with this code showing. Boat is at Canyon Lake, between Austin and San Antonio if you ever make trips that way from your neck of woods.

Thanks This is a twin engine boat correct ?? I would scan the engines. Clear the code and see what happens and of course scan again in due time.. If code comes back (prob will ) then look at what I posted above for the possible fix.

I have 2 boats in now from Austin and 2 from the Tulsa area and 1 from New Mexico and 1 guy whom just moved from Florida. . . The rest are within a 100 mile rad plus the regular loco s. . Our weather stinks lately - hard to get anything done as of late. I was up in Indy Mid Dec for 2 boats there..

Min once per month - every month, I travel all over from being hired.. Basically 600 Sci and down.- The 496 seems like everyone hits me up. I see alot of wakeboats as well. LS / LSA / GEN V direct injection and Ford Raptor.. I like that because its not the same old same old plus its new Tech as well. Anyways just thinking out loud,

Yes, twin engine application. Glad to see you are staying busy! Maybe PM me if you are headed down 35 to the Austin area, would have you do your scan. For now, will see what I can do in the garage with nothing more than my hands, lol. No scanner available, etc. Not sure I trust the mechanics in the area with my setup. They just dont have the experience or exposure to the Mercury Racing lineup.

Appreciate your replies/comments.

New here, awesome thread. I have a 496 8.1 375 mercury inboard. Code 9
 

Quick Update on my matter, got the boat out and ran her pretty hard. Shake out the cob webs. Ran perfect AND the code cleared on it own. Moral of the story for me, Boat On!

fault # 9 is



You are in Guardian mode - aka protection mode - aka power reduction mode and you need to quit running your engine because some shape or form the engine is telling that person stop we are in protection MODE - you have issues with other FAULTS and or sensors and or connections and or pressures and or voltage and or whatever.

first place to start is your warning horn is that active / working - do you hear it at start up and do you hear it when fault # 9 shows up ?? if not IT NEEDS TO BE WORKING cause there will be a zillion faults for that one alone. And then one needs to see what other fault(s) that are possible taking place. Good luck and have to mention about a 2 week wait time for this time of the year ---- you are very lucky its only 2 weeks.

Maybe you can help me
 

Yes it beeps solid
 

Have to say in your case I am not trying to pin point your problem without hands - eyes - ears and proper tools on your engine to properly find out and fix correctly whats wrong. Like I said you have issues as to why a solid horn is going off. As a TOTAL GUESS on my part --- possible would be water pressure too LOW that is one issue but in most cases there is more than one issue with used boats. The older the boats always seems more things need to be address especially with marine efi engines.

A solid horn is a HARD WARNING. On the forums if one would have that magic crystal ball to fix marine apps and pin point the exact problems would be wonderful but that does not exist. It is very POSSIBLE if you keep running your boat that your 2 week wait might turn into 2 years because of engine damage. If in fact you really do have a low water pressure warning and or more faults taking place -- hence - the guardian mode - possible you can overheat the engine inwhich can become very expensive .

You are located where ? in the USA ?. IMO best for you is to take your app into a very good OEM certified shop. This is prob the best advice instead of throwing darts at it hoping it gets fixed. That is a total waste of time and money. Im in Texas if a fix is needed. Good luck

Thanks but really hard to properly fix boats over the phone and net. most used boats I find have multiple things need addressing. Also it would be wise to water test the boat - run it thru its paces to help find issue(s) and water test fully after the fix ( all done with proper tools and testing methods - That way its a 4 sure fixed boat when it leaves. . Plus water testing and under load of the engine is a great way to help find other issues and if any water leaks. .

Im in the Dallas area of Texas.

Code Mercruiser 370 tdi
 

Hello
Do you know what Mercruiser 370 diesel tai code are? STBD Sys Fault 70 ?????

Fault codes
 

I have a 2011 8.2 with smart craft crap I drove the boat for about an hour then hung out for about 2 then restarted the boat and got a fault code EA 118 engine sensor failure I’m thinking IAC valve but not sure I can’t find the fault codes any where any info would be greatly appreciated