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hogie roll 05-16-2014 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Rbesola (Post 4123274)
In the boat ready to go once mother nature starts cooperating. Couple hours on them already to get my first couple oil changes out of the way so were ready to boat. I think the first trip to Peoria is going to be for the 4th. Most likely stay at EPBC. What do you run? Ill have to keep an eye out!

Boat sold. Buying a biz. Hopefully something nice once some debt is payed down!

I'll probably be on a 18' sea ray with a tower and blue tribal decal, an old maroon 21' regal, or maybe dr. Bobs big 46 sea ray.

actionmarineguy 05-17-2014 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4123306)
If you go with a small blower and want to make efficient power, you need more compression and NOT more blower speed. With aluminum heads 8.25 :1 is no problem. Huffers look good and are fun but cost money and are somewhat high maintenance...kinda like a stripper.

Thanks for the advice I will keep boost the same Pulley's seem to be an issue to change, and I will go with aluminum heads that should help with possible detination.
Any idea what size runners would be best, dart heads are usually what I use. also I usually put in the 2.3'' intake valves , Anyone know why merc put in smaller intake valves on th e525's?

actionmarineguy 05-17-2014 08:59 AM

[QUOTE=MILD THUNDER;4123250]I helped out OSO member Wayne272 on something similar. We talked over the phone a bunch regarding cam selection and parts to use, etc. He had a pair of stock 365HP 454 Mags. With a cam upgrade (stayed flat tappet due to budget reasons), the 177 Blower, GM rect port heads, few other odd's and ends, stock shortblocks, he made 590HP at 5400RPM, and over 600FT lbs from a very low rpm, with a peak boost psi around 4.5psi. I think he's VERY happy with how his boat performs compared to with the stock 365 mags.

Thanks, this looks like exactly what I want to do . I have a new roller cam sitting around will post the specs to see what you think if it is a good match or not.

MILD THUNDER 05-17-2014 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by actionmarineguy (Post 4123546)
Thanks for the advice I will keep boost the same Pulley's seem to be an issue to change, and I will go with aluminum heads that should help with possible detination.
Any idea what size runners would be best, dart heads are usually what I use. also I usually put in the 2.3'' intake valves , Anyone know why merc put in smaller intake valves on th e525's?

The stock GM rect port heads, normally had 2.19 intake valves. They used a 2.25" intake valve on the HP engines like the 525, HP500, etc. 2.3 intake valve is pretty large if your using a 4.250 bore block.


Smallest rect port dart head in aluminum, would be the 310cc runner. Your 525sc intake will be for a rect port. You'll need to watch the port match, as the GM style rect port openings, are slightly different than the Dart's . They are actually a bit larger. Port matching them would be a good idea.

actionmarineguy 05-19-2014 10:11 AM

I have only built N/A engines, The merc specs for the 525 and 600sc engine used a 2.190 intake, I was just puzzled by why this was done.

Also the cam I have is a roller 587lift intake and 610exh. Intake open@ 33btdc closes75atdc .Exhaust opens@82btdc closes36atdc
Will this work or is it too much for this application.

Crude Intentions 05-19-2014 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4123306)
If you go with a small blower and want to make efficient power, you need more compression and NOT more blower speed. With aluminum heads 8.25 :1 is no problem. Huffers look good and are fun but cost money and are somewhat high maintenance...kinda like a stripper.

Strippers are also known as huffers right? Seems fitting they are much alike. Lol

TomZ 10-22-2014 11:35 PM

I know this is a bit of an older thread but... the 2.19 intake works better on the smaller 454 bore.

Interesting thread. I'm contemplating a lot of the same for my 242LS. A 540 NA would be great, but I'm weighing the costs all around.

gmgearhead454 10-28-2015 06:18 PM

I know this thread is older, but MildThunder, i am about to do the exact builds you were just describing here. I have 365 mag motors, stock except for Crane gold roller rockers & MSD distributers. Im about to get a set of 525sc blowers, and they come with a set of fresh 1050 Williams carbs, but i was wanting to at least throw a cam in them while i have them apart, and was also gonna stay flat tappet for cost purposes.... I have always had good luck with Comp so i was gonna either do a grind from their Xtreme Marine line, or one of their Blower cams. Both are right around 0.570ish lift, but the Blower cam is on a 114lsa versus the Xtreme Marine 112, would either of these be similar to the Crane that your buddy used? I'm running stock manifolds for the time being so I'm thinking 114lsa may be better? (Do NOT want any reversion issues). Didn't think i could get as highs 590hp but after reading your post I'm awfully impressed and kinda pumped to try it out!

MILD THUNDER 10-28-2015 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by gmgearhead454 (Post 4370716)
I know this thread is older, but MildThunder, i am about to do the exact builds you were just describing here. I have 365 mag motors, stock except for Crane gold roller rockers & MSD distributers. Im about to get a set of 525sc blowers, and they come with a set of fresh 1050 Williams carbs, but i was wanting to at least throw a cam in them while i have them apart, and was also gonna stay flat tappet for cost purposes.... I have always had good luck with Comp so i was gonna either do a grind from their Xtreme Marine line, or one of their Blower cams. Both are right around 0.570ish lift, but the Blower cam is on a 114lsa versus the Xtreme Marine 112, would either of these be similar to the Crane that your buddy used? I'm running stock manifolds for the time being so I'm thinking 114lsa may be better? (Do NOT want any reversion issues). Didn't think i could get as highs 590hp but after reading your post I'm awfully impressed and kinda pumped to try it out!

Stock exhaust is going to hurt you. I am assuming you mean stock 365 cast iron exhaust.

badluck 10-29-2015 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gmgearhead454 (Post 4370716)
I know this thread is older, but MildThunder, i am about to do the exact builds you were just describing here. I have 365 mag motors, stock except for Crane gold roller rockers & MSD distributers. Im about to get a set of 525sc blowers, and they come with a set of fresh 1050 Williams carbs, but i was wanting to at least throw a cam in them while i have them apart, and was also gonna stay flat tappet for cost purposes.... I have always had good luck with Comp so i was gonna either do a grind from their Xtreme Marine line, or one of their Blower cams. Both are right around 0.570ish lift, but the Blower cam is on a 114lsa versus the Xtreme Marine 112, would either of these be similar to the Crane that your buddy used? I'm running stock manifolds for the time being so I'm thinking 114lsa may be better? (Do NOT want any reversion issues). Didn't think i could get as highs 590hp but after reading your post I'm awfully impressed and kinda pumped to try it out!

I currently run a flat tappet Comp cams CB 280AH-14 (.050 232 in/237ex, LS 114, lift .547 in/ex) in my .060 over 525SC with 8.5:1. It pulls much better than the HP500 carb motor I had as a spare wihile rebuilding the 525SC.
Agree, exhaust should be looked at, I have CMI E-tops.


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