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stimleck 06-05-2014 10:38 AM

This pizzes me off! Who is CP performance trying to kid
 
Revolutionary cams that prevent reversion Hallelujah! errr wait only if you use full offshore headers
Didn't the OSO membership figure this out years ago?

Here is a suggestion for CP, dont try and scam the uneducated to buy cams and exhaust when they simple need to buy exhaust with tall risers and the water introduced later in the stream

http://www.cpperformance.com/c-1501-...sion-cams.aspx

SB 06-05-2014 11:11 AM

Bold marketing...but what else is new in this day and age.

BTW: In case no one knows, I'm the Famous French Male Model from The Internet. :poopoo:

Budman II 06-05-2014 11:25 AM

Oh sh!t, another thread about cams, exhaust and reversion. Don't get me started! See guys, it's not just me starting them. :party-smiley-004:

Budman II 06-05-2014 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4133209)
Bold marketing...but what else is new in this day and age.

BTW: In case no one knows, I'm the Famous French Male Model from The Internet. :poopoo:

SB, thought all those French male models were, ahem, left-handed batters. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Budman II 06-05-2014 11:32 AM

When are they going to make me a cam that will give me that 3/4 race cam idle that I can use with my silent choice setup? :lolhit:

vintage chromoly 06-05-2014 03:30 PM

Not quite sure why someone marketing "anti-reversion" cams would anger you so.

I don't see why it's wrong for cpperformance to sell cams designed for the marine enthusiast.

Maybe I'm missing the malicious intent.

compedgemarine 06-05-2014 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Budman II (Post 4133225)
When are they going to make me a cam that will give me that 3/4 race cam idle that I can use with my silent choice setup? :lolhit:

if you need it I have a 3/4 cam, ok so its a full cam with 4 worn off lobes but 3/4 of them are still good.

CPPerformance 06-05-2014 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 4133344)
Not quite sure why someone marketing "anti-reversion" cams would anger you so.

I don't see why it's wrong for cpperformance to sell cams designed for the marine enthusiast.

Maybe I'm missing the malicious intent.

Unfortunately we do our best to sell products to people who understand them. Anti-reversionary camshafts are ground and installed on entirely different principals that traditional camshafts and are great for certain applications. Were sorry that some just balk because they don't understand but we just can't help that.. But thanks for acknowledging the fact that we do want to bring newer technology components to the boating industry.

Keep in mind this is not rocket science and professional engine builders that actually have their own cams ground have used these techniques before. What they most definitely are not is a cam that your going to find in your traditional camshaft catalog. Again all were trying to do is educate those that care about engine technology and those that don't well just disregard it.

stimleck 06-05-2014 08:40 PM

you are advertising a cam that eliminates reversion but then have a disclaimer that it cant be used with switchable exhaust so essentially you are saying if you buy this cam you will still need a custom exhaust which by the way is the solution for reversion!
You are using marketing to trick people in to buying your cam as a solution when they still need to buy the "solution" headers
Each cam has a disclaimer "FREE FLOWING EXHAUST IS A MUST" people on these boards have been running free flowing exhausts as a solution to reversion with big cams for years.
This is not technology this is marketing
Are you saying that people running stock exhaust manifolds can now run much more aggressive cams and not have reversion? if so then I'm in!

if we buy a custom exhaust we can run a bad ass cam and there is no need for an " anti reversion cam"

Originally Posted by CPPerformance (Post 4133439)
Unfortunately we do our best to sell products to people who understand them. Anti-reversionar camshafts are ground and installed on entirely different principals that traditional camshafts and are great for certain applications. Were sorry that some just balk because they don't understand but we just can't help that.. But thanks for acknowledging the fact that we do want to bring newer technology components to the boating industry.

Keep in mind this is not rocket science and professional engine builders that actually have their own cams ground have used these techniques before. What they most definitely are not is a cam that your going to find in your traditional camshaft catalog. Again all were trying to do is educate those that care about engine technology and those that don't well just disregard it.


vintage chromoly 06-05-2014 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4133479)
you are advertising a cam that eliminates reversion but then have a disclaimer that it cant be used with switchable exhaust so essentially you are saying if you buy this cam you will still need a custom exhaust which by the way is the solution for reversion!
You are using marketing to trick people in to buying your cam as a solution when they still need to buy the "solution" headers
Each cam has a disclaimer "FREE FLOWING EXHAUST IS A MUST" people on these boards have been running free flowing exhausts as a solution to reversion with big cams for years.
This is not technology this is marketing
Are you saying that people running stock exhaust manifolds can now run much more aggressive cams and not have reversion? if so then I'm in!

if we buy a custom exhaust we can run a bad ass cam and there is no need for an " anti reversion cam"

:bong:

Are you mad at holley because you need a good intake manifold to use one of their carbs?

Bent out of shape because you need a performance prop to use your performance outdrive?

This is ridiculous.


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