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Budman II 06-12-2014 10:18 PM

Any wlders in the house?
 
I'm not a welder, so don't know if this can be fixed. Wish I had noticed this when I first bought these tips. Apparently they stripped two of the three studs when removing them. They appear to be fubar'ed beyond fixing with a die, and I don't really have room to spin it on the stud with the pipe next to it. I am hoping that the original stud could be cut off and a stainless bolt or stud can be welded on in its place. Sound doable? If anyone has a better idea to fix this, let it fly! Going to talk to a friend of mine who works at a stainless fabrication shop tomorrow. Sometimes you can't win for losing!

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f_inscreenname 06-12-2014 10:26 PM

I would give a tap and die set a chance.

Budman II 06-12-2014 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 4137128)
I would give a tap and die set a chance.

I tried a die on it, but no way to rotate the holder because the pipe is so close. If someone makes a die holder that has a hex head on it that can be spun with a socket or wrench that might be an option. Thanks.

US1 Fountain 06-12-2014 10:41 PM

Rig something cheap and dirty. Simple as a pipe large enough to hold the die with a couple screws to hold the die, and long enough to clear the exhaust tip. Drill a hole the the pipe end to run a rod thru to turn your new die holder. Think man think. :) or just turn the die with channel locks. The threads are cut. You are just going to clean them up. Won't take much to run a die down it
But that thread is pretty bad. If you can weld in a new bolt/ stud I'd go that route myself

blefever 06-13-2014 12:22 AM

I'd just chase the threads with a die. You can turn it with a socket, open end or box wrench or a crescent wrench. Use lube like 3 in 1 oil. Even if you have to undersize 1 size a lot less work and money then welding on new studs. Plus, welding on new studs will most likely discolor the chrome on the outside bezel.

FIXX 06-13-2014 01:12 AM

i would cut it and leave a inch sticking out and tig on a existing bolt..

Griff 06-13-2014 02:32 AM

Cut them off and then just use 4200 on the flange to mount them

Black Baja 06-13-2014 05:22 AM

12 point socket 1-1/16 or 1-1/8" and extension with a rachet. If there is no meat left thread it to something metric...

Budman II 06-13-2014 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 4137135)
Rig something cheap and dirty. Simple as a pipe large enough to hold the die with a couple screws to hold the die, and long enough to clear the exhaust tip. Drill a hole the the pipe end to run a rod thru to turn your new die holder. Think man think. :) or just turn the die with channel locks. The threads are cut. You are just going to clean them up. Won't take much to run a die down it
But that thread is pretty bad. If you can weld in a new bolt/ stud I'd go that route myself

Good idea on the pipe, US1. I'm going to talk to my welder buddy to see what he thinks. If he can't get to it, I'll try to come up with something like the pipe. There's not a whole lot left of those threads, and stainless is tougher to cut than mild steel. What about cutting it at the threads and just welding another stud next to it. Would be stronger, and I could just go a little oversize on the hole.

Not real sure about relying on 4200 to bond it on. If I were to do that, I would leave the studs on there to help locate and hold the tips in place. I would feel better having a nut on the end of it.

Thanks for the suggestions, guys!

Jonesyfxr 06-13-2014 06:46 AM

I'd just cut the studs flush, then drill new holes then use stainless bolts. If you want it to look nice get an Allen head bolt.

motor 06-13-2014 06:51 AM

Use a hex die with deepwell socket

fbc25el 06-13-2014 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by jonesyfxr (Post 4137195)
i'd just cut the studs flush, then drill new holes then use stainless bolts. If you want it to look nice get an allen head bolt.

x-2

Jamie77905 06-13-2014 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Budman II (Post 4137127)
I'm not a welder, so don't know if this can be fixed. Wish I had noticed this when I first bought these tips. Apparently they stripped two of the three studs when removing them. They appear to be fubar'ed beyond fixing with a die, and I don't really have room to spin it on the stud with the pipe next to it. I am hoping that the original stud could be cut off and a stainless bolt or stud can be welded on in its place. Sound doable? If anyone has a better idea to fix this, let it fly! Going to talk to a friend of mine who works at a stainless fabrication shop tomorrow. Sometimes you can't win for losing!

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...612_221225.jpg

Yes that's an easy weld fix just cut it off clean it up and tig another stud on it probably take about 15 minutes.

buck35 06-13-2014 09:09 AM

+1
What fix said

FIXX 06-13-2014 09:32 AM

the reason i said to leave a inch sticking out so you dont have to buff the lip after welding a new stud on..if you cut it off flush you wil have to buff the discoloration out which will take more time and work,,i could have that fixed in about 10 minutes..

Budman II 06-13-2014 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by FIXX (Post 4137284)
the reason i said to leave a inch sticking out so you dont have to buff the lip after welding a new stud on..if you cut it off flush you wil have to buff the discoloration out which will take more time and work,,i could have that fixed in about 10 minutes..

Appreciate the help, FIXX. Wish I was down the street from you. My welder would handle it if it were mild steel, but I don't have the setup for stainless.

weldcrane 06-13-2014 03:32 PM

cut it tig a new stud on

motor 06-13-2014 04:18 PM

I understand that could be done .But (1) won't it discolor and require additional labor to polish and (2) with as little as they hold, what is wrong with just cleaning up the threads .Snug is all they need...As someone said ,you could pretty much 4200 them on. once it's clamped to hose. Personally I would want the fasteners ...the fasteners are already there, just buggered up

Originally Posted by weldcrane (Post 4137446)
cut it tig a new stud on


dsparis 06-13-2014 05:52 PM

Put a new nut in a press and squish it a little to oblong the hole and crank it on.

Budman II 06-13-2014 09:56 PM

Update: Got R Done!!
 
Ended up buying a hexagonal die that allowed me to put a one inch socket on it. Much easier than cutting and welding. Good to go! Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. Maybe it will help the next guy with this problem.

Plowtownmissile 06-13-2014 10:07 PM

If you use a stainless nut, make sure to put some anitsieze on. It will keep the stainless from galling.

Pilotpete 06-14-2014 04:45 PM

Y'all are making this too darn hard! The easy answer is DUCT TAPE IT!

Geez!

:D

Budman II 06-15-2014 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotpete (Post 4137743)
Y'all are making this too darn hard! The easy answer is DUCT TAPE IT!

Geez!

:D

It's been said that you can fix anything with duct tape or wd40. If it moves and it's not supposed to, break out the duct tape - it it doesn't move and it should, grab the wd40. :)


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