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blue thunder 07-07-2014 02:53 PM

I see a spin on oil filter which means to me no oil cooler at all. I suspect sky high oil temps causing bearings to be destroyed leading to pistons hitting the heads and broken rods exiting the side of the pan.

Wobble 07-07-2014 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4149247)
So where are all the extremely opinionated oil brand loyalists ? You would think with the answers on 'What type of oil ' threads, that there would be some of those voicing opnions here.

Goes to show you that.........LOL...

Don't think a good oil is going to fix poor engineering

ezstriper 07-08-2014 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by blue thunder (Post 4149265)
I see a spin on oil filter which means to me no oil cooler at all. I suspect sky high oil temps causing bearings to be destroyed leading to pistons hitting the heads and broken rods exiting the side of the pan.

exactly !!!! B/S setup and you were lucky for a while...as soon as you turned the key the pin was removed...need more oil, cooler, decent lines, etc...

Unlimited jd 07-08-2014 09:43 AM

Not sure on this setup but some people spin a filter on there during tear down to stop the oil from dripping on the floor. Before you crucify someone get all the FACTS not our own assumptions.

Budman II 07-08-2014 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 4149714)
Not sure on this setup but some people spin a filter on there during tear down to stop the oil from dripping on the floor. Before you crucify someone get all the FACTS not our own assumptions.

Point taken, Red, but from the looks of all those holes in the oil pan, I think putting a filter on there is not going to do much to keep oil from leaking out of that engine! ;)

Sunrocket24 07-08-2014 10:30 AM

You can see the oil cooler and line in pic #2 on the first post.

Wobble 07-08-2014 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Sunrocket24 (Post 4149742)
You can see the oil cooler and line in pic #2 on the first post.

Agree, brings us back to the bypass issue.

ezstriper 07-08-2014 02:27 PM

see what looks to be a cooler...I'm thinking was not hooked up...buy hey lets not jump to any conclusions...bottom line is this, it spun more than 1 rod bearing, no question, ran till destructed...reduced to door stop material...

abones 07-08-2014 09:28 PM

I would like to see what the main brgs look like, if it was indeed an oiling issue the mains would show the lack of oil to some extent, and if they look decent then we can lean towards detonation. But lets not rule out rod bolt failure, leading to oil loss at the rods in question, then the snowball effect at 4900 RPM, then the inevitable. Forensic engine CSI can lead us down many paths, I know that if I was running at 4900 RPM with the design of my boat the wind over my ears, I would not hear a rod knocking till the engine quit(blew up) So this motor had to make some noise before it blew!

Sunrocket24 07-09-2014 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by ezstriper (Post 4149918)
see what looks to be a cooler...I'm thinking was not hooked up...

I have purchased a bunch of new and used parts from the OP and spoke with him on the phone a few times. He is not the type of guy that would run without an oil cooler. Now it does look like a stock merc cooler, was it cooling enough? Not sure if OP has oil temp gauge?


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