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CC230 07-09-2014 03:36 PM

Choosing an oil pump
 
As a lot of you know I'm putting together a 383. It's all assembled and was ready to fire up last weekend. Well as I started priming the oil pump it had some clunkiness to it, which I have felt in some pumps before, and goes away after priming it. Well this time not the case it was louder than the 1/2" drill I was priming it with, it had 65psi but was noisy as heck.

This is the question, this pump is the Melling select 10552 standard pressure high volume pump (which I have a new replacement in hand). I am now wondering if I should go with the 10555 high pressure high volume pump while I'm here.
The clearances on the mains are .0027 and rods .0025.

Now would be the time to change it.

What are your thoughts.

Barnacle Bill 07-09-2014 03:47 PM

I'd change it. If you're having issues during priming it will always be in the back of your mind. It's easier to change now than after you assemble everything and install the motor.

CC230 07-09-2014 03:52 PM

Bill, I'm definitely changing it, and the new one is smooth as it should be, but am wondering if I should go high volume.

Borgie 07-09-2014 03:54 PM

I would go with a high volume Schumann pump.

http://www.schumannsdynamicperforman...gh-volume.html

Having a ball bypass and bypassing oil directly back into the sump(not via the pickup tube like melling/OE) has many benefits regarding lubrication.

Barnacle Bill 07-09-2014 03:57 PM

i'd go high volume especially if it's going to be run at high RPM a lot. Are you putting in a high cap oil pan?

CC230 07-09-2014 04:07 PM

Engine is done, high capacity canton pan etc, so I don't want to change too much.

Barnacle Bill 07-09-2014 05:16 PM

Very nice. Definitely use the high cap pump.

Borgie 07-09-2014 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Borgie (Post 4150558)
I would go with a high volume Schumann pump.

http://www.schumannsdynamicperforman...gh-volume.html

Having a ball bypass and bypassing oil directly back into the sump(not via the pickup tube like melling/OE) has many benefits regarding lubrication.

Also, utilizing this design you don't have all of the added stress put on the distributor gear that high volume pumps produce. It's more of an issue in small blocks also. If you can compare a Schumann vs Melling, you would pick Schumann every time. People often times don't because one, they aren't aware they exist, and two do not understand how the OEM style spur pumps work in the first place.

CC230 07-09-2014 06:42 PM

Borgie, I'll look at them, Thanks.

Barnacle Bill 07-09-2014 06:44 PM

upload the pic to something like photobucket. you cant use the IMG tags and get a pic from your hard drive.

CC230 07-09-2014 06:49 PM

Yea I edited it but not quick enough!

CC230 07-09-2014 07:01 PM

Don't mind the mess!
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/o...630_201745.jpg

NautiSouth 07-10-2014 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Borgie (Post 4150558)
I would go with a high volume Schumann pump.

http://www.schumannsdynamicperforman...gh-volume.html

Having a ball bypass and bypassing oil directly back into the sump(not via the pickup tube like melling/OE) has many benefits regarding lubrication.

Borgie, Does the Schumann pump with the external bypass direct the bypassed oil below the oil level or just piss it out into the crankcase?

Borgie 07-10-2014 12:37 PM

The Schumann pump returns the oil into the sump via a diffuser, so it's not "pissing" oil back into the crankcase at all. It's a very popular pump in many forms of Motorsport. If you look into its engineering, you would be quite impressed.

I always hear "the bbc doesn't have oiling issues". IMO that's completely false. If you go into bypass, the oil is being redirected out of the pickup tube. So you have loss of volume to all vital clearances period. I won't even go into the poor quality of other pumps out there. Vern, the owner, is an engineer and has perfected the original spur pump for the SBC and BBC engines.

BUP 07-10-2014 12:47 PM

I would suggest calling Schumann for any of your oil pump needs and questions. They improve upon stock oil systems and have some of their own designs. Sounds like Borgie has done huge amounts of homework about them and I will confirm that I have used them as well plus directed some tech questions for them as they have been very helpful plus buying their recommended pumps for the app. They are doing a lot of new stuff to improve oiling for the LS series of engine as well. FYI. I highly recommend them.


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