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525 EFI H2O pressure?
Strbd, motor suddenly show low water pressure. Lot's of water comes out from the tips, water ok in the strainer, A few techs said it's just a sensor glitch. I took it off, cleaned it, pressure is still low ( about 8-10 at 4000 RPM) Engine temp does creep up to about 170-172 after about 15-20+ minutes. Normally at higher RPM I see 20-25 and temp around 140-155. . At idle pressure is 5-7. So.. if the pressure is low? what is it? I would think if there is a restriction somewhere it would be high. Impeller is good.
Thx . P |
How old is your antifreeze? Is it pink or starting to grey a bit? Your antifreeze could be getting old causing the higher temp.
Swap the sensors from one engine to the other; or just buy a new one. It's a "cheap" fix. |
The climbing temperature and the low pressure is surely a sign of an issue somewhere. 8-10 PSI at 4000 RPM is NOT good. You do not want to do that for long or you run the risk of compromising the headers and other stuff. It is a good idea to change the sensor anyway to make sure you're getting accurate readings but with the engine temp rise, I wouldn't stop there. You can still get decent output from the tails even with lower pressure so that is misleading. The 525 usually runs mid to high 20's PSI and temps around 150ish at normal operating. You should backflush the coolers and heat exchanger to make sure there are no obstructions there and if the impeller is OK, then it might be an issue with the pump itself, ie: bearings. I would not run this engine at operating speeds until you track it down. 525's do not like to be overheated at all.. other bad stuff happens.. e.g., those headers certainly don't like it... head gaskets don't like it either..
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Also, is the belt slipping? Another easy check is the heat exchanger. It could be plugged with sand your sea strainer does not catch.
Sensors can fail high or low, as well. |
Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4174239)
Also, is the belt slipping? Another easy check is the heat exchanger. It could be plugged with sand your sea strainer does not catch.
Sensors can fail high or low, as well. In Paradox's case, the rising temperature is the thing to be concerned about.. In my opinion and experience with 5 of these motors already, there is almost surely a pressure problem there. |
THanks guys, all good points. The belt is not slipping. Impeller pumps is good. Didn't run the engine long, at 170 degrees. Headers, are OK. Not referencing the BS CMI issues, but they did not heat up. I have an exhaust water temp. sensor in the headers, didn't get very hot. Back flushing, and all water coming out where should be is ok, but of course can't really tell, if the volume is right, but there is no "BIG" restriction. I will remove the hoses from the oil cooler and heat exchanger and dig deeper. :) Anti freeze is pink. Pretty new. I had sea weed in the heat exchanger's before, and at the oil cooler, so I can clean them, but I thought with any restrictions the pressure would go up, not down. In the bilge we go.. lol
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Good news and bad news.
Heat exchanger, clean as a whistle, Oil cooler also clean. The good news. The bad news is I still didn't find the problem. I can blow air through all the hoses with ease. Somewhat.. lol.. Some has water in it, but I can sort of blow some of it out, and I feel no restrictions. I hate to remove the power steering cooler, but I might have to. I will blow water through everything first from a hose. |
Originally Posted by PARADOX
(Post 4174251)
THanks guys, all good points. The belt is not slipping. Impeller pumps is good. Didn't run the engine long, at 170 degrees. Headers, are OK. Not referencing the BS CMI issues, but they did not heat up. I have an exhaust water temp. sensor in the headers, didn't get very hot. Back flushing, and all water coming out where should be is ok, but of course can't really tell, if the volume is right, but there is no "BIG" restriction. I will remove the hoses from the oil cooler and heat exchanger and dig deeper. :) Anti freeze is pink. Pretty new. I had sea weed in the heat exchanger's before, and at the oil cooler, so I can clean them, but I thought with any restrictions the pressure would go up, not down. In the bilge we go..
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Originally Posted by HyFive578
(Post 4174233)
The 525 usually runs mid to high 20's PSI and temps around 150ish at normal operating.
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Originally Posted by PARADOX
(Post 4174439)
Good news and bad news.
Heat exchanger, clean as a whistle, Oil cooler also clean. The good news. The bad news is I still didn't find the problem. I can blow air through all the hoses with ease. Somewhat.. lol.. Some has water in it, but I can sort of blow some of it out, and I feel no restrictions. I hate to remove the power steering cooler, but I might have to. I will blow water through everything first from a hose. |
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