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rrentsch 10-16-2014 07:01 PM

Winterizing Question- Looking for Ideas
 
I thought I had the perfect way to winterize my 500 EFI's. I use the bottom half of a 275 gal.tote. On the first engine I start by dumping 12 gal. of -100 degree anti freeze ( 6gal from last year and 6 gal new ) in the tote. I hook a pump up to a muff and circulate the antifreeze thru the running engine until the temp gets to over 150 and I'm sure that the thermostat has opened. I then fog with MM oil and shut it down. I then un-hook and move the tote and pump to the second engine, add 6 more gal. of new antifreeze and start the process over again.
Now here is my problem : I can get the second engine up to 150 fairly quickly since the antifreeze is still hot. For the second year the 2nd engine will start to miss and die before I can get it fogged. It will not restart. The only think I can think is happening is the hot antifreeze is effecting the fuel delivery like a Vapor Lock or it is effecting the cool fuel system some way. I would bet once it cools down every thing will be fine.
Does any body else have any other thoughts ?

SB 10-16-2014 07:12 PM

Interesting. Yeh, your probably turning the Cool Fuel heat exhanger into a Hot Vapor Maker.

On a side note: what kind of pump are you feeding the antifreeze to the muffs with ?

Mr Maine 10-16-2014 07:34 PM

That's crazy. Just drain the blocks and lines. Fill up with antifreeze or just leave it dry.

bonesmalon 10-16-2014 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Maine (Post 4204362)
That's crazy. Just drain the blocks and lines. Fill up with antifreeze or just leave it dry.

+1
I drain the water (closed cooling) from headers and cool fuel, power steering, reinstall plugs and with muffs in place while hooked to elevated bucket full of pink stuff. Run 4 gallons thru, shut off and drain again to ensure room for expansion just in case

masi242 10-16-2014 08:47 PM

When you drain the block will water left in your circulating pump still drain?

donzi matt 10-16-2014 08:54 PM

Yank the hose off of it and drain it.

masi242 10-16-2014 08:56 PM

Thanks I wasn't thinking looks like my weekend project.

Mr Maine 10-16-2014 08:58 PM

I pull the large hose off the bottom of the pump just to check.

rrentsch 10-16-2014 09:23 PM

SB, It one of those 120 V pumps for draining Pool covers, you can hook a garden hose to the top
I forgot to say that I drained the blocks first

blefever 10-16-2014 10:04 PM

A Shop Vac is your friend.

Bondo 10-17-2014 05:26 AM

Ayuh,.... Just Drain everything, 'n forget about the antifreeze,....

Air, just don't freeze,....

ThisIsLivin 10-17-2014 09:03 AM

I don't recommend RV anti-freeze anymore as it jells up in the block and blocks the steam holes in your head gaskets. I just tore my motor down this last spring because I heard a knock, it ended up being my drive which I discovered after it blew. But I digress, when I pulled the head off I noticed pink and blue goo plugging the steam holes in the head gasket. Now I drain the block and headers, I pull the sea pump off to check the impeller and store the impeller until spring so it doesn't take a set. I then pour a cup of automotive anti freeze into the thermostat and 1 in the main line coming into the engine to back wash the oil cooler. I then use a remote starter to crank the engine while spraying Amsoil engine fogger. By not running it while fogging, I don't foul out the plugs and I get multiple seasons out of them. I have done a tear down on a motor done this way and the cylinders are perfectly coated with oil which also makes it easier on startup in the spring. The best part is I can do this in the garage and it takes way less time and money.

rrentsch 10-17-2014 09:32 AM

When you drain the block how do you know that all the water drains out ? Can anyone tell me if any water stay above the thermostat when you drain the block from both sides? I understand there will be water left in the headers


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