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Eliminatorshane 10-29-2014 12:11 PM

They aren't fresh like they just where dropped in..... there's nothing to make right from the builder here.

Black Baja 10-29-2014 12:15 PM

I say lets see some close ups of the plugs.

F-2 Speedy 10-29-2014 12:16 PM

Is this a single 29 or twins, is one motor hurt and the other one fine ?? Eliminator you make reffenence to motor's

tajinate 10-29-2014 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Eliminatorshane (Post 4210907)
Your motors. You ran them all summer is what I'm told. Here's what I would do. Backup from talking about or trying to involve engine builder. Think about what you've done differently. Take a fuel sample as we know marinas are so honest lol... did pump quit for a minute or whatever but a builder isn't responsible for detonation or anything when it leaves their hands after dyno in my opinion. Also c &s is awesome. So is Patrick at pro systems. The thing that sucks too me about this is you threw a reputable builders name out immediately.

I've not said anything bad about Eric or anyone there if you'd read what was said, it was just asked who built it. I'm not in any way implying they don't do reputable work, they do. The whole reason behind this post was to try to find some suggestions on what types of things could have causes a motor with 9 hours on a complete build to suffer this type of catastrophe. You've got some pretty bad info from wherever your source is. I waited from October of 2012 and did not have the motor back in my possession until January of this year. The first time out with it was not until 4th of July weekend, 4th of July to be exact. Your claim to 30+ hours on my "motors" in a single engine boat that I've had the key "ON" for a total of a little over 9 hours are just ridiculous. I have talked to Eric several times throughout the process and several times this week about the issue, never said he was being a dead beat or implied anything of the sort, he said he's willing to help me out. The pump did not quit that I ever noticed and being I spent every trip out getting used to the new engine and fixing minor problems that popped up and especially paying attention to what the gauges were showing. Wasn't saying Eric is responsible but just threw me off that once I discovered the problem the first solution was that the wrong plug was being used and I should swap them out.

Cole2534 10-29-2014 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Eliminatorshane (Post 4210886)
I wouldn't hesitate too take too boyd or eric for that matter. But we have and always will support smith power and I'm sending there for refresh. Bob which is brads dad is awesome. Boyd is very reputable and if something they did I'm sure he will make it right. Just my .02

He'll ya, and little Smith can dang sure paint! They're building a 509 for me right now.

SB 10-29-2014 12:26 PM

Following is just conversation:

Blow thru carb's aren't the most trustworthy thing on the open water.
I'm a diehard carb guy, but with blowthru's I personally would go EFI/ Agai, just personal opinion and conversation.

Basically I'm waiting for full report of this engine before I listen to what may have happened without evidence.

Cole2534 10-29-2014 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Eliminatorshane (Post 4210886)
I wouldn't hesitate too take too boyd or eric for that matter. But we have and always will support smith power and I'm sending there for refresh. Bob which is brads dad is awesome. Boyd is very reputable and if something they did I'm sure he will make it right. Just my .02

He'll ya, and little Smith can dang sure paint! They're building a 509 for me right now.

Andy 10-29-2014 12:36 PM

I built my two engines in a 302 Formula I had a few yrs ago. Beat them senseless for 2 yrs, always changed oil every 15 hrs. They ran tops until I filled up at a marina I hadn't ever been to but was super low on fuel. Fired up and blasted home. Half hr into the ride at 3/4 throttle or 4600 rpm lost an engine. Pulled heads and pistons where destroyed. I didn't hear detonation. Pulled other heads, major damage in that engine also. Pulled fuel sample and did an octane rating. Came back @86 after mixing with my 94. I had paid for 93??? Marina owner told me I was full of $hit and to pound salt, I didn't wait around to see him wake up. So check your fuel in the boat could be that not the builder.

Black Baja 10-29-2014 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 4210929)
I built my two engines in a 302 Formula I had a few yrs ago. Beat them senseless for 2 yrs, always changed oil every 15 hrs. They ran tops until I filled up at a marina I hadn't ever been to but was super low on fuel. Fired up and blasted home. Half hr into the ride at 3/4 throttle or 4600 rpm lost an engine. Pulled heads and pistons where destroyed. I didn't hear detonation. Pulled other heads, major damage in that engine also. Pulled fuel sample and did an octane rating. Came back @86 after mixing with my 94. I had paid for 93??? Marina owner told me I was full of $hit and to pound salt, I didn't wait around to see him wake up. So check your fuel in the boat could be that not the builder.

I would have pissed on him so he would wake up and I could do it again. I know the marinas in my area aren't regulated as much as on the road and they get away with less minimums octane in the tanks. I know a guy that will let fuel sit in the tank all winter and sell it in the spring. What a POS.

SB 10-29-2014 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 4210929)
I didn't wait around to see him wake up. So check your fuel in the boat could be that not the builder.

I don't promote this sort of behavior.




But !!!!!


Good for you !!!!!

LOL. Wow.


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