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Young Performance 12-19-2014 04:45 PM

It sure is. I'll send you a pm
Eddie

BUP 12-19-2014 08:12 PM

http://www.accel-ignition.com/produc...s+Shine+at+PRI


Video of Accel coils if that helps anyone as to what they are offering nowadays.

hogie roll 12-19-2014 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by beaver 3 (Post 4236437)
i feel like its just a matter of time before somebody (me) throws a foxbody ecm on a bbc with a ls firing order. ( in fords its 13726548, draw it out on paper compared to chevy cylinder numbering. its the same.) go ahead and compare an ls to smallblock ford on paper. you will realize gm took the sbf and dropped a few mil to come up with the ls. take an ls header and a 302/351, chopoff the flange and tell me which is which? sure the ports of the head are more efficient but millions of dollars will do that.

im glad chevy has decided to continue on with pushrods. but i feel like pushrod tech has reached its limits for our life time with oem and they will be moving to ohc within 10 years.

they are already direct injecting. which we will never see as long as we have bbc in our boats.

Some people said the same thing about nascar engines making 500hp back in the 80s.

You're incorrect. As long power density is the real metric worth considering and not specific output, pushrod engines will have a future.

Tibbstoy2 12-19-2014 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 4237170)
As Gimme mentioned, if you want to run sequential, you need to have a cam position sensor. In the case of the Mefi, the cam sensor allows you to run 2 knock sensors and have individual cylinder knock retard. With the Mefi, we make a 1x cam sensor that takes the place of the distributor. I'm not sure what the Holley uses. Haxby could better answer that. You can have DIS without the cam sensor, but it's so easy to incorporate it. There are some that are commercially available. I just didn't really care for them. The have a cast housing with a stamped steel wheel. They just look cheap to me. That's why we did a billet aluminum piece. It has a larger shaft, sealed roller bearings, the wheel is hard coat anodized, etc. Obviously, it costs more than the cast one, but I think it's worth it.

The Holley ECM can work with both the 4x and 1x cam syncs. It can read the 1x sensor 3 ways, from a magnetic signal, or reading a rising or falling edge. I just checked the settings in the software - Very configurable. You can choose to go waste fire with the coil packs, or individual coil on plug. Holley loosely recommends one of the cast type housings Eddie was talking about - I agree, cheap looking. Eddie's piece looks very nice.

Black Baja 12-20-2014 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Tibbstoy2 (Post 4237388)
The Holley ECM can work with both the 4x and 1x cam syncs. It can read the 1x sensor 3 ways, from a magnetic signal, or reading a rising or falling edge. I just checked the settings in the software - Very configurable. You can choose to go waste fire with the coil packs, or individual coil on plug. Holley loosely recommends one of the cast type housings Eddie was talking about - I agree, cheap looking. Eddie's piece looks very nice.

How good does the housing need to be in order to spin the pickup?

Black Baja 12-20-2014 08:00 AM

Just wondering has anyone tried using an msd 6012 to run the coils?

Tibbstoy2 12-20-2014 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4237431)
How good does the housing need to be in order to spin the pickup?

Yeah, I hear you... my thought is if the housing is cheap, then the distributor gear and oil pump shaft coupler could be too. Maybe that's a stretch, but I definitely wouldn't want a racing engine running a Chinese distributor using pot metal parts or the material used for XR gears :party-smiley-004: ensuring that my oil pump keeps turning :)

sutphen 30 12-20-2014 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4237467)
Just wondering has anyone tried using an msd 6012 to run the coils?

I have.carbed 6.2 denali motor in a wake board boat.ran and idled really nice.

Black Baja 12-20-2014 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4237511)
I have.carbed 6.2 denali motor in a wake board boat.ran and idled really nice.

I was thinking about mounting the Ls reluctor to a bbc crank...

Black Baja 12-20-2014 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Tibbstoy2 (Post 4237506)
Yeah, I hear you... my thought is if the housing is cheap, then the distributor gear and oil pump shaft coupler could be too. Maybe that's a stretch, but I definitely wouldn't want a racing engine running a Chinese distributor using pot metal parts or the material used for XR gears :party-smiley-004: ensuring that my oil pump keeps turning :)

I thought the trick was to use a distributor out of a vortex motor. You can use a GM melonized gear which are the best...


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